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from the Independent:

Employees who raise concerns about their company’s environmental practices won the right to legal redress yesterday after a judge ruled that green beliefs deserved the same protection in the workplace as religious convictions. 

  In a landmark ruling which legal experts said could open the floodgates to thousands of claims Mr Justice Burton ruled that environmental views should be protected under the employment equality laws. 

The appeal judge’s decision means that workers who are victimised for their strong environmental views such as how a company should deal with cutting carbon emissions, managing waste or using aviation to travel to meetings, can bring compensation claims against employers.

Employment lawyers said that a payout under the new interpretation of the law could be unlimited. 

In yesterday’s case Tim Nicholson, a former executive of the giant property company Grainger, claimed his redundancy last year was a direct result of his green opinions – which put him at odds with other senior executives within the firm. Mr Nicholson is taking the company, Britain’s largest residential landlord, to an employment tribunal to seek compensation for his dismissal, and asked the court to allow him to use special legislation which protects people’s rights to hold religious and philosophical beliefs at work – the Employment Equality (Religion and Belief) Regulations, 2003. He claims that his concern about the environment in general, and climate change in particular, amounts to a philosophical belief under the meaning of the regulations. Yesterday the judge confirmed the view of an employment judge at a pre-hearing review in March – revealed in The Independent – that it does.  

Grainger had appealed against the earlier judgment, claiming that Mr Nicholson’s views were not the same as religious or philosophical beliefs. 

But Judge Burton, sitting at the Employment Appeal Tribunal, said yesterday: “If a person can establish that he holds a philosophical belief which is based on science as opposed, for example, to religion, then there is no reason to disqualify it from protection.” 

The decision means that Mr Nicholson, 42, who now works for a green medical charity in Oxford, can go ahead and use the regulations to bring his case against his former employers. He said: “I am grateful that Mr Justice Burton understood that deeply and genuinely held views about catastrophic climate change and the need to change our ways to protect the human race are philosophical views that are worthy of protection. Such views are more and more relevant to our planet’s survival.”  

Arpita Dutt, a partner in employment law at Russell Jones and Walker, said that the case would be of great benefit to many employees. “For claimants in this country there is no doubt that this is a very good judgment… But they will have to be able to show that they acted in good faith and not for any financial advantage.” She said that the legal argument on this point could be eventually heard in the Court of Appeal or even the Supreme Court.  

Michael Burd, joint head of the employment group at Lewis Silkin, said that the ruling was important but the test as to what constitutes environmental belief worthy of protection was a high one. He said: “It was established in a judgment in 2007 that a belief has to have sufficient cogency and cohesion worthy of respect within a democratic society. Not all cases will meet this test.” 

Peter Mooney, who is head of consultancy at Employment Law Advisory Services, said: “The ramifications of Tim Nicholson winning this test case are massive. In essence victory will put employees who hold strong environmental beliefs in the same category – and with the same protection – as workers who hold strong religious beliefs.” 

He added: “Consequently he could be in line for unlimited damages. This would open the floodgates for others who believe their employers have victimised them simply because of their views on the environment and how business deals with pressing environmental issues such as climate change and reducing our carbon emissions.” 

Mr Nicholson claims his beliefs affect his whole life. He no longer travels in aeroplanes, has renovated his home to be more eco-friendly and says he fears for the future of the human race. 

He accused Grainger’s chief executive, Rupert Dickinson, of showing “contempt” for his concerns and claimed he once flew a member of staff to Ireland to deliver his BlackBerry which he had left in London. 

Mr Nicholson was selected for redundancy from Grainger and stopped working for the firm as head of sustainability in July last year. 

Grainger corporate affairs director Dave Butler said: “Grainger absolutely maintains, as it has done from the very outset of these proceedings, that Mr Nicholson’s redundancy was driven solely by the operational needs of the company during a period of extraordinary market turbulence, which also required other structural changes to be made within the company.” 

He added: “Grainger rejects outright any suggestion that there was any other motivation relating to Mr Nicholson’s beliefs or otherwise. Grainger has a long-held commitment to acting as a responsible landlord, employer and member of the business community.”

This should be a wake up call for ALL people that even when you submerse yourself fully in your sin, that sin will still war with you!

This man is obviously not comfortable with the choice he has made to mutilate his body to try and look the part of a woman and now his subconscious is trying to reconcile that mutilation with what he knows to be right.

So instead of repenting of the sin, he attempts to bring Jesus down to his level in the vain hope that it will ease the mental torment he is obviously going through!

from The Times Online:

A controversial play which portrays Jesus as a transsexual woman was defended yesterday by its writer who has herself crossed the gender barrier to live as a woman.

Jesus, Queen of Heaven, has caused a storm of protest from Christian evangelical groups, who picketed the Tron Theatre in Glasgow when it opened this week.

However, their attacks have caused deep offence to the play’s author, who also acts the leading role. For Jo Clifford — formerly the playwright John Clifford — wrote the piece in an attempt to create greater understanding of transgendered people like herself.

The play’s opening night was attended by about 300 demonstrators. Roman Catholics joined evangelical Christians for a two-hour protest during which they waved placards and sang hymns.

Yesterday Ms Clifford, 59, from Edinburgh, expressed deep disappointment in the reaction.

“Most of it is happening because of a complete misunderstanding of what I am and what I am trying to do … They thought awful, sacrilegious things were going to happen on stage,” she said. Her critics, she added, ought to reread the Gospel. “Jesus said: ‘judge not’.”

Ms Clifford is clear that much of the motivation for protestors is disapproval of her transgendered identity. Not only has she written the play, she also performs the title and only role.

“One of the placards turned up later in the bar. It said, ‘God: My Son Is Not A Pervert’. That was upsetting because what’s behind it is prejudice against transgendered people.”

The piece is a sequel to God’s New Frock, which Ms Clifford wrote in 2002 when she was still identified as John. Although she came out to her friends and family at the age of 50, she did not begin living as a woman until five years ago, after her partner, Sue Innes, the feminist writer, with whom she has two children, died.

While God’s New Frock was a partly autobiographical piece about Ms Clifford growing up as a male and trying to suppress her need to become a woman, Jesus, Queen of Heaven, imagines the son of God alive in the present world as a transsexual woman, and attempts to present how she would relate the parables under this transgendered identity. “I have showed the script to priests and they’ve said it corresponds to what the Bible says,” Ms Clifford added.

The negative response by some church groups to the play is one of the strongest seen since Jerry Springer: The Opera, a West End musical written by Stewart Lee and Richard Thomas, was screened by the BBC in 2005. Yet Ms Clifford says she did not think she was being especially controversial when she wrote the piece. “I thought the story was a very respectful one, and a very loving one.”

Those who have seen the play, she said, have found it uplifting — “even a man from the Daily Mail”.

The production, part of the Glasgay! festival, may tour. “A couple of churches in London have expressed interest, funny enough,” she said.

Her greatest hope is that theatregoers will gain a clearer understanding of what it means to be transgendered. “There is a lot of prejudice to overcome, but you don’t overcome fear by hiding away,” she said.

from David Wilkerson Today:

Christ described the last days as a troubling and frightful time: “Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth…. Upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity” (Luke 21:26, 25). 

What did Jesus give us to prepare us for these calamities? What was his antidote to the fear that was going to come? 

He gave us the illustration of our Father watching the sparrow, of God numbering the very hairs on our heads. These illustrations become even more meaningful when we consider the context in which Jesus gave them. 

He told these illustrations to his twelve disciples, as he sent them out to evangelize the cities and towns of Israel. He had just endowed them with power to cast out demons and heal all manner of sickness and disease. Think of what an exciting moment that had to be for the disciples. They were given power to work miracles and wonders! But then came these fearful warnings from their Master: 

“You won’t have any money in your pocket. And you won’t have a home, not even a roof to sleep under. Instead, you’ll be called heretics and devils. You’ll be beaten in synagogues, dragged before judges, thrown into prison. You’ll be hated and despised, betrayed and persecuted. You’ll have to flee from city to city to avoid being stoned.” 

Now picture these men wide-eyed as they listened to Jesus. They must have been gripped with fear. I imagine them wondering, “What kind of ministry is this? Is that what the future holds for me? This is the bleakest outlook on life I’ve ever heard.” 

Yet, in this very same scene, Jesus told these beloved friends three times: “Fear not!” (Matthew 10:26, 28, 31).  And he gave them the antidote to all fear: “The Father’s eye is always on the sparrow. How much more will it always be on you, his beloved ones?” 

Jesus is saying, “When doubts flood in— when you’re at your wits’ end and you think no one sees what you’re going through—here is how to find rest and assurance. Look at the little birds outside your window. And run your fingers through your hair. Then remember what I told you, that these small creatures are of immense value to your Father. And your hairs are to remind you that you’re of much greater value to him. His eye is always on you. And he who sees and hears your every move is near.”  

That is how our Father cares for us in hard times.

from HHS.gov:

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius today announced plans to establish the nation’s first national resource center to assist communities across the country in their efforts to provide services and supports for older lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) individuals. 

Experts estimate that as many as 1.5 to 4 million LGBT individuals are age 60 and older.   Agencies that provide services to older individuals may be unfamiliar or uncomfortable with the needs of this group of individuals. The new Resource Center for LGBT Elders will provide information, assistance and resources for both LGBT organizations and mainstream aging services providers at the state and community level to assist them in the development and provision of culturally sensitive supports and services. The LGBT Center will also be available to educate the LGBT community about the importance of planning ahead for future long term care needs.

The LGBT Resource Center will help community-based organizations understand the unique needs and concerns of older LGBT individuals and assist them in implementing programs for local service providers, including providing help to LGBT caregivers who are providing care for an older partner with health or other challenges. 

The Administration on Aging will award a single Resource Center grant at approximately $250,000 per year, pending availability of funds.  Eligible entities will include public-private nonprofit organizations with experience working on LGBT issues on a national level.

“So, the 23 countries deemed “developed” shall pay for their own past emissions, future emissions, the reduction of their own emissions, the reduction of the emissions of developing countries and for the mitigation of any damages caused by climate change in developing nations. They will also hand over potentially lucrative technology and continue to pay aid to the developing world. Have I mentioned that India and China are among the countries that will benefit from all of these payments as their robust economies are considered developing and are therefore in need of support?”

from MercatorNet:

United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has said that achieving a deal at the Copenhagen Climate Change Conference may not be possible. Good, I say and I hope that deal is never possible, because while I don’t know if the Secretary General has read the deal, I have and it scares me.

I can already hear the cyberscream starting, chants of “climate change denier!” being hurled my way, nasty comments are already being crafted and I haven’t even explained myself yet. Such, unfortunately is the level of debate surrounding climate change; the thing we used to call global warming.

The deal being negotiated at Copenhagen has very little to do with climate change; it may touch on it, but it also uses this issue to put in place a massive world wide redistribution of wealth. Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper still takes flak for calling the Kyoto Protocol “a socialist scheme to suck money out of wealth-producing nations.” If Harper were to say the same thing about Copenhagen, he’d be right.

Copenhagen is short for The United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen (taking place December 7-18th), a conference and international treaty all wrapped up into one that beyond the surface has very little to do with climate change, but don’t take my word for it, listen to the supporters.

Australian scientist, author and climate change activist Tim Flannery came to Ottawa recently to promote his latest book, Now or Never and to press the Canadian government to sign on to Copenhagen. Now I must say that compared to many Canadian green activists, Flannery seems highly reasonable and a nice chap; he even has a sense of humour, a quality that seems to have leeched out of our own green movement some time in the ‘90s.

When I asked Flannery about the notion reported in such climate change boosting newspapers as Britain’s left-wing Guardian, that the deal would mean a massive transfer of wealth from the developed world to the developing world, Flannery didn’t flinch. In fact he called this essential to the deal.

“We all too often mistake the nature of those negotiations in Copenhagen. We think of them as being concerned with some sort of environmental treaty. That is far from the case,” said Flannery. “The negotiations now ongoing towards the Copenhagen agreement are in effect diplomacy at the most profound global level. They deal with every aspect of our life and they will influence every aspect of our life, our economy, our society, our relationship with the developing world, our relationship with the environment as well.”

So there you have it, a man who is firmly on the side of climate change, who runs his own council full of business executives who push for a legally binding treaty at Copenhagen, saying this all has little to do with climate change. So what is it all about then?

It’s about money, plain and simple. While most of the focus in the media is on the attempts to cut greenhouse gas emissions, the behind the scenes negotiations are about how much developed countries will have to pay to developing ones. Ban Ki Moon says that the $150 billion USD in annual contributions to help developed countries adapt to climate change will have to be “scaled up.” That’s a fancy way of saying the bill just got bigger.

According to the draft treaty, in sections pushed by Flannery and the Secretary General, developed countries, in addition to being required to cut their own emissions of greenhouse gasses by 25 to 40 percent by 2020, must also make several different kinds of payment s to the developing world. There is the payment for historic or past emissions of greenhouse gases; that unspecified amount will be due almost immediately. In addition, the agreement also says (page 16, sect. 33), “Annex I Parties [developed countries] shall provide new and additional financial resources to meet the full costs incurred by developing country Parties” for any undertakings to curb emissions in the developing world. None of these payments, according to the agreement, should come from money currently set aside from foreign aid money to the developed world. Also, green technologies developed by wealthy nations must be transferred, without compensation, to developing nations to help them deal with climate change.

So, the 23 countries deemed “developed” shall pay for their own past emissions, future emissions, the reduction of their own emissions, the reduction of the emissions of developing countries and for the mitigation of any damages caused by climate change in developing nations. They will also hand over potentially lucrative technology and continue to pay aid to the developing world. Have I mentioned that India and China are among the countries that will benefit from all of these payments as their robust economies are considered developing and are therefore in need of support? If boosters of the deal have their way, not only will developed nations pay to see their jobs exported to India and China but neither country will need to sign on to binding targets for reducing their own greenhouse gas emissions.

Over the last weekend in October, tens of thousands of mostly young people around the world staged events, some 5,000 in 182 countries, calling for “an ambitious, fair, and binding global climate deal.” Like most people concerned about the environment, it’s doubtful these young people have any idea what is in the proposed treaty. I doubt most world leaders have read it, but if they think this deal is about climate change, they should listen to Dr. Flannery. He’d tell them this is about more, much more.

a new twist on the “Bait and Switch” tactic!

from The Chicago Tribune:

At Lighthouse Church of All Nations in Alsip, the congregation can get more than just prayer at the Sunday worship services.

If a lucky — or “blessed and highly favored” — churchgoer is in the right seat, they can also receive a cash prize.

At each of the three Sunday services, the Rev. Dan Willis pulls a number of one seat from a bag and the worshiper in that seat wins a cash prize. Two of the churchgoers win $250 and the third gets $500. The church gives away $1,000 each Sunday, Willis said.

The cash prize is part of Willis’ recent focus on helping his congregation pay bills and begin a debt-free life, he said.

“We’ve had soooo many of our people displaced from jobs, facing foreclosure,” he said. “When people’s faith was high, their debt was down. When their faith was down, their debt was high. I realized the two are connected.”

Willis concedes the cash prize is a gimmick to fill the pews. But he’s unapologetic about the plan, because it’s working. On a typical Sunday, his church draws about 1,600 people to its three Sunday services. But since the money giveaway started, about five weeks ago, the congregation has grown to about 2,500 each week, he said. The money for the giveaway comes from the church offering. Lighthouse is a non-denominational church.

“If I can get someone in here and teach them and give them money, that’s what I’m going to do,” he said.

As part of the lessons, Willis set up a shredder near the pulpit to encourage church members to shred their credit cards and commit to stop spending. He talks about budgeting, tackling past-due bills and saving. He encourages the prize winners to use the money to pay down their bills, rather than splurge on new items. One Sunday, he gave away 15 savings accounts with $25 already in them. And he had bank representatives at the service so church members could set up accounts.

“The Bible says even an ant stores up in the summer so it can live in the winter,” Willis said. “Even an ant can teach us. Even an ant knows how to save. We, with intellect, don’t know how to do it. When people see that in Scripture, it takes on a whole different level.”

from Gateway Pundit:

The leader of Planned Parenthood in College Station, Texas left her post after watching the ultrasound of an abortion procedure. Abby Johnson told reporters that Planned Parenthood changed it’s business model from one that pushed prevention, to one that focused on abortion.

She recently joined the Pro-Life organization in her community.
KBTX reported, via Free Republic:  

Planned Parenthood has been a part of Abby Johnson’s life for the past eight years; that is until last month, when Abby resigned. Johnson said she realized she wanted to leave, after watching an ultrasound of an abortion procedure.

“I just thought I can’t do this anymore, and it was just like a flash that hit me and I thought that’s it,” said Jonhson.

She handed in her resignation October 6. Johnson worked as the Bryan Planned Parenthood Director for two years.

According to Johnson, the non-profit was struggling under the weight of a tough economy, and changing it’s business model from one that pushed prevention, to one that focused on abortion.

“It seemed like maybe that’s not what a lot of people were believing any more because that’s not where the money was. The money wasn’t in family planning, the money wasn’t in prevention, the money was in abortion and so I had a problem with that,” said Johnson.

Johnson said she was told to bring in more women who wanted abortions, something the Episcopalian church goer recently became convicted about.

“I feel so pure in heart (since leaving). I don’t have this guilt, I don’t have this burden on me anymore that’s how I know this conversion was a spiritual conversion.”

Johnson now supports the Coalition For Life, the pro-life group with a building down the street from Planned Parenthood. Coalition volunteers can regularly be seen praying on the sidewalk in front of Planned Parenthood. Johnson has been meeting with the coalition’s executive director, Shawn Carney, and has prayed with volunteers outside Planned Parenthood.

Now people want to sue the phantoms of their own misguided minds ! These moonbats now want to sue to prevent certain letters of the english alphabet from being used because they resemble religious symbols!

This is what happens when a country becomes completely unhinged from any sort of firm rational underpinnings!

from Fox News:

A blue, cross-like design emblazoned on T-shirts at Penn State University has some critics seeing red.

The shirts — intended to foster school spirit — sport a vertical blue line down the center with the words “Penn State White Out” emblazoned across the chest, forming a design that some say resembles a cross. The back of the shirt depicts the same blue line obscured by the words, “Don’t be intimated … It’s just me and 110,000 of my friends.” Roughly 30,000 of the shirts have been sold.

Penn State says it has received six complaints about the shirt, including one from the Anti-Defamation League’s Philadelphia branch, from people who say it connotes a Christian cross. The logo design also has become the focus of controversy in the student newspaper, “The Daily Collegian,” which has received several letters to the editor on both sides of the issue.

Michal Berns, a junior majoring in media law and policy, said she refused to buy the $15 shirt because of its religious connotations.

“At first glance, you don’t necessarily think that’s what it looks like, but when you look at it more, it does look like a cross,” Berns told Foxnews.com. “That’s the reason I didn’t purchase it.”

Berns said students can purchase the shirts when they buy season tickets for the university’s nationally ranked football program or during the football season at the campus bookstore and other stores. The shirts are typically worn at Penn State’s annual “White Out” game, at which a crowd of 100,000 screaming Nittany Lions fans creates a virtual sea of white at Beaver Stadium.

While Berns acknowledged the shirt’s single blue stripe resembles the stripe on the team’s football helmet, she and others at the university’s Hillel Jewish organization plan to show their school pride in other ways.

“There always has to be some sort of separation,” said Berns, referring to the state-funded school and religious affiliation. “Me personally, I’m not going to buy the shirts and I know others at [Penn State Hillel] who won’t, either.”

Bill Mahon, vice president for university relations, said six people have contacted Penn State to voice their objections to the shirt’s design.

“Six complaints is not a controversy,” Mahon wrote Foxnews.com. “Students submit shirt designs to the student paper each year. Students then vote for their favorite design and they are sold in the campus bookstore.”

Mahon said the design was based on the single blue stripe on the football team’s helmets and will not be pulled from store shelves as some have asked. “The shirts have sold out and no changes are planned,” he said.

Stephanie Bennis, a senior at the school, said she created the shirt’s design in March with fellow public relations major Emily Sabolsky, and in no way did they intend to create religious overtones. Like Mahon, she said the single blue stripe is a nod to the university’s football program.

“That was the entire idea,” she said. “And all we thought was normally wording goes right across the chest. That’s truly the reason why we did it.”

Bennis said she was “very shocked” when she learned the university had received complaints about the design.

“It’s just sad to see that in this day and age, the most offensive thing on a shirt can be what people see as a religious symbol,” she said.

“Are we going to ban lowercase t’s in the alphabet? Where do you draw the line?”

Barry Morrison, regional director of the Eastern Pennsylvania-Delaware region of the Anti-Defamation League, said the organization contacted Penn State officials last month after receiving a complaint regarding the shirt.

Morrison said the similarity to a cross appeared to “inadvertent and unintentional,” but he acknowledged that some could take exception.

“This is not intended to be a cross,” he said. “But some people clearly saw this connection and decided to complain about it.”

Other students contacted by Foxnews.com said if there is a hidden religious message in the shirts, they haven’t seen it.

“It’s a little blown out of proportion,” senior John Shoemaker said. “I kind of see where they’re coming from, but I don’t think it was designed as a religious statement.”

Shoemaker, who purchased one of the shirts for $15 to wear at Penn State’s loss to Iowa last month, said they’re “relatively common” on the State College, Pa., campus.

Nick Mangus, a senior majoring in East Asian studies, described the controversy as “ridiculous” and said images of crosses can be seen virtually anywhere, even in “tiles on the floor.”

“Honestly, I think it’s basically people just trying to stir up controversy over something that’s ridiculous,” Mangus said. “If you don’t want to buy it, don’t buy it. It’s that simple. You don’t have to try and force everyone else to change their ways because you think it’s offensive.”

from USAToday:

Trevor Keezer calls himself an American patriot, a man who loves his country, God and religion. He never imagined his beliefs would get him fired. But that’s exactly what the 20-year-old says happened when he reported for work at The Home Depot in the rural Florida town of Okeechobee, about 140 miles north of Miami.

 Keezer said he’d been wearing an American flag button on his Home Depot apron since he began working as a cashier at the store in March 2008. The button read, “One nation under God, indivisible.” 

“I’ve worn it for well over a year and I support my country and God,” Keezer said Tuesday. “I was just doing what I think every American should do, just love my country.” 

But earlier this month, Keezer began bringing a Bible to work to read on his lunch break. 

That’s when he says Home Depot management told him he would have to remove the button. 

Keezer refused, and he was fired on Oct. 23, he said. 

“It feels kind of like a punishment, like I was punished for just loving my country,” Keezer said. 

A Home Depot spokesman said Keezer’s termination was for a violation of the company’s dress code. 

“The issue is not whether or not we agree with the message on the button,” said spokesman Craig Fishel. “That’s not our place to say, which is exactly why we have a blanket policy, which is long-standing and well-communicated to our associates, that only company-provided pins and badges can be worn on our aprons.” 

Fishel said Keezer was offered a company-approved pin that said, “United We Stand,” but he declined. 

“This associate chose to wear a button that expressed his religious beliefs,” he said. 

Keezer is now out of work and has retained attorneys who say they plan to sue. 

He said he was working at The Home Depot to earn money for college, and wore the button to support his country and his 27-year-old brother, who is in the National Guard and is set to report in December for a second tour of duty in Iraq. 

Keezer said the store manager specifically told him he was being fired because he refused to remove the button that had the word “God” on it. 

“They never once said anything about the yellow ribbon” worn on his apron to support the troops, Keezer said. 

Keezer’s West Palm Beach lawyer, Kara Skorupa, said she planned to sue the Atlanta-based company. 

“There are federal and state laws that protect against religious discrimination,” Skorupa said. “It’s not like he was out in the aisles preaching to people.” 

She also noted the slogan on Keezer’s pin is straight from the Pledge of Allegiance. 

“These mottos and sayings that involve God, that’s part of our country and historical fabric,” Skorupa said. “In God we trust is on our money.” 

Michael Masinter, a civil rights and employment law professor at NOVA Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale, said any lawsuit over religious discrimination might be a tough one to win. 

“Because it’s a private business, not one that’s owned and operated by the government, it doesn’t have to operate under the free speech provisions of the First Amendment,” Masinter said. 

Masinter said the only legal question would be if The Home Depot violated anti-discrimination laws meant to protect religious freedoms. 

“But we’re not talking about religious displays here,” he said. “This sounds more like a political message … Wearing a button of that sort would not easily be described as a traditional form of religious expression like wearing a cross or wearing a yarmulke. 

“Home Depot is under no legal obligation to allow its employees to use their work time and their work clothing to express their personal political messages,” he added.

 

from Apostasy Watch:

This piece is taken from a longer commentary originally published in 2004  

Kim Clement has been widely regarded to have prophesied the events of Sept. 11 2001, five years before they occurred.

Steve Schultz -   “Just to remind you, Kim Clement is the one who, five full years before 9/11, prophesied this:”

“‘I am shaking this place. I am shaking your ground. I am shaking the earth. There has been a terrorist act and there will be another.’ For the Spirit of the Lord says, ‘America will retaliate,’ but God says, ‘even as they retaliate with natural weapons of war, and they say, ‘we will go the place of the east, and we will go, and we will bring them down for what they did to our people as they flew in the air over Long Island.’”  

“But the Spirit of the Lord says, ‘Another will take place, but I will prevent many deaths, because I will cause a security thing to happen so they will not die. I will look after you, America’. ‘But,’ God says, ‘the retaliation will not be right. It will not be of my Spirit. It will be a wrong decision, but,’ God says, ‘the saints of the Lord, of the most high God, will begin to pray. And your God says, I will strike down the god of the east. I will bring something to pass very soon. I have told you about it. The very god of the east, the very king of the east, the very prince of the east. The one that waged a war against America. They spoke about the mother of wars.’ For God says, ‘This is going to be the mother of wars as you have never seen. For the Spirit of God will rise up against the prince of the east, and He will bring him down.’” — Kim Clement, July 25, 1996

From this reference to “our people as they flew in the air over Long Island , has grown the myth of Clements prophetic ability. But is that actually what he was saying at the time?

Please notice carefully the date of the prophecy, July 25, 1996. That date is important because it was only 8 days after TWA flight 800 exploded in the air OFF THE COAST OF LONG ISLAND killing all 230 people on board. 

One of the first theories was that the explosion and crash was terror related. The official government explanation later was mechanical failure but many even today believe that this was a terrorist act that was covered up by the Clinton administration so as not to alarm the flying public. In fact, an Islamic terrorist organization did take credit for the bombing the day after the event. Eight days after the event it was a reasonable assumption to infer that this was a terrorist act.

Regardless of what actually happened it seems clear that Clement had that event in mind when he “prophesied”. He was claiming that this was a terrorist act and that the U.S would retaliate for it against “the god of the east”.  Did we retaliate for that event?

Also in the alleged prophecy Clement claimed that “there has been a terrorist act and there will be another”. Did it really take a prophet of God in 1996 to claim that there would be another act of terrorism?

By July 1996 the U.S. had already experienced the first World Trade Center bombing (Feb 26, 1993), the Oklahoma City bombing (April 19, 1995), the bombing of the U.S. military headquarters in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (Nov 13, 1995), and the bombing of the U.S. military barracks at  Dhahran, Saudi Arabia (June 1996). . . . .

read the full article here.

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