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From First Plumbline Apologetics:

2 Thessalonians 2:10  “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”

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Hope Together are promoting another gospel through the Bible Series and another attempt to draw us into the RCC they state leading many in to apostasy, we need to be more vigilant in these last days.

“THE BIBLE is an epic 10-hour mini-series to be broadcast on Channel 5 with the first episode airing on November 30 at 9pm. The series brings to life the dramatic tales of faith and courage in the most widely read book of all time. Breath-taking in scope and scale it features powerful performances, exotic locations and cutting-edge visual effects to create a spectacular television event that will entertain and inspire the whole family. From Genesis to Revelation, THE BIBLE series features some of the most famous stories ever written and some of the most iconic characters.

Make the most of the series in your community or workplace.”

Visit Scripture Union’s resource page for The Bible Bank and The Bible e-book, free resources helping you to engage with the THE BIBLE mini-series.

Check out some of the reviews:

THE BIBLE series is an excellent dramatization of the Bible. It is historically credible and put together with sensitivity and imagination. The producers have a wonderful ability to make you think about familiar scenes in an entirely new way. Helen K Bond (Senior Lecturer in New Testament, University of Edinburgh)

The Bible is the most-read book of all time. It has touched the lives of billions of people across the planet and has significantly shaped history, culture, literature, art, politics and human behavior – and continues to shape the world we live in today. You don’t have to believe the Bible to be affected by it. Roma Downey and Mark Burnett (Executive Producers of THE BIBLE series (Roman Catholics)

The show has been nothing short of a sensation, watched by millions of people across the world. To have it on Channel 5 is incredibly exciting – these are stories that can’t fail to draw you in. Marie-Claire Dunlop (Acquisitions and Channel Manager at Channel 5)

Attempting to depict the whole span of the biblical narrative from Genesis to Revelation is a bold undertaking. THE BIBLE series pulls it off. It has paid very close attention to the text but at the same time imagined what it might have felt like for the different characters depicted.Paula Gooder (Canon Theologian of Birmingham and Guildford Cathedrals) (This person does not know their bible)

What exactly does the Bible Miniseries Teach and who are the Spiritual Advisers Behind The Bible that Hope Together and Scripture Union are promoting ?

[1] Source Beginningandend.com

History Channel The Bible mini-series | Basphemy and innacurate portrayal.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. – Matthew 7:15-18

“We weren’t qualified to teach the Bible, but we knew plenty of people who were,” – The Bible mini-series co-creator Mark Burnett, speaking of the panel of spiritual advisors who helped make the mini-series.

A quick look at the Board of Advisors on The Bible Miniseries and it becomes quite obvious that it was bound to contain heretical portrayals of the Scriptures. Prosperity Gospel preacher T.D. Jakes, Rick Warren of Saddleback Church and Joel Osteen of Lakewood Church, the largest church in the United States are the three most prominent names. AsBeginning and End has detailed in past articles, all three pastors teach Unbiblical, New Age, false doctrines. In our article on T.D. Jakes we showed that in addition to preaching the money-focused prosperity Gospel, he also has yoked with New Age promoter Oprah Winfrey. Joel Osteen preaches a message of New Age mysticism that can be found in manybooks and websites on witchcraft, while Rick Warren has been a major promoter of a one-world religion that merges other faiths with Christianity.

Craig Groeschel of LifeChurch.tv, which is famous for its rendition of “Gangsta’s Paradise”during Sunday service is also on the board in addition to a number of Catholic advisors as well. What all these people have in common is teaching doctrines that are not found in the Bible and often contradict the Word of God. As The Lord Jesus Christ explained in the passage above, if the spiritual foundation of a mini-series is filled with heretical, New Age pastors, the “fruit” of the mini-series will be questionable. . . . .

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From Worldview Weekend:

Is there any greater book than the Bible? Is there any greater treasure than that Truth which has been handed to the Christian by God? Is there anything more relevant, more life-changing, more convicting, more comforting, than the very Word of God. No, beloved, there is not.

Yet, for reasons that far exceed the rationale of the regenerate, there are those who seek to twist and change this great Word so that it might be more relevant, more exciting, more enjoyed by those who stand as enemies of its Author. In this sad and unfortunate quest for more, the Truth becomes untruth and any benefit that may be derived from this Word is lost.

One may rightly inquire, what more could possibly be desired? Is it adventure the reader seeks? What greater adventure is there than the story of a nation wandering in the wilderness for 40 years before being allowed to enter the land promised to them by God? What young boy does not delight to hear his father read to him the story of David and Goliath? Oh, yes, the Bible has adventure.
Perhaps you are of a more lyrical bent. Why, there is an entire book of poems to be enjoyed in the Psalms! And far from sharing thoughts of temporal whims, these Psalms proclaim and praise the very God Who inspired them.

Is it love you seek? Then that search is over when you open the pages of Scripture, for it reveals not a fleeting version of man’s emotion, but the greatest love ever demonstrated: the love of a holy and perfect God extended to sinners.

Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you. (John 15:13-14)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. (John 3:16-17)

For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. (Rom. 5:6-11)

This great book is no ordinary tome to be perused, enjoyed once and then placed on the shelf for a rainy day. No, this is the very Word of God, and while it contains all of those elements described above, it is not to be enjoyed piecemeal, but in its entirety as it tells the story of redemption through Jesus Christ the Lord.
This splendid, God-breathed Word is not merely a thing to be observed, but a thing to be obeyed. It is sufficient for all matters pertaining to life and godliness.

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. (2 Tim. 3:16-17)

Penned by men, yet inspired by the Holy Spirit, all that is contained within the pages of Scripture is true and trustworthy.

For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For when he received honor and glory from God the Father, and the voice was borne to him by the Majestic Glory, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased,” we ourselves heard this very voice borne from heaven, for we were with him on the holy mountain. And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. (2 Pet. 1:16-21)

And so this magnificent work, this great gift from a holy God to His children, cannot be improved upon. Yes, to enjoy it, to learn from it, to be convicted by its truths, to be overjoyed by the salvation of which it speaks, one must open it, one must read it, one must understand it. But, oh, what reward the Christian gleans upon immersing himself in the pages of the words of his Lord, even if for a few moments!
Why, then, would anyone seek to enhance this already perfect Word? A valid reason cannot be imagined, except perhaps that one desires to share what he thinks Scripture should teach rather than what the Word truly says.

Here one cannot help but think of The History Channel’s upcoming miniseries, The Bible, set to air on 3 March 2013. Praised by men such as Joel Osteen, Rick Warren and T.D. Jakes, the film is being called ‘epic’, which is indeed quite a claim. Produced by Mark Burnett of Survivor fame and his wife, Touched By An Angel star Roma Downey, already books, studies, devotionals and other resources are available based upon this production.

The FAQ section of The Bible website answers a question about which many may be wondering:

bible docudrama

Not only, then, were seeker-driven and Word Faith pastors such as Warren, Osteen and Jakes consulted, but others of questionable convictions like Erwin McManus, Craig Groeschel, Gabe Lyons, Samuel Rodriguez and others. Time and space prevent from examining here each of these names in depth. . . . . . .

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From Perfect Peace Plan:

By James Sundquist

Who will give 22 scriptural reasons why they are not the same Jesus. He explains in detail the following: The Jesus discussed in the Koran & Haddith Scriptures. What Islamic Jesus says he will do when he returns to the earth. Is Islam a religion of peace? Is the biblical Jesus the same Jesus as depicted in Muslim Scriptures? Is Islamic Jesus the Prince of Peace, or another masquerade of the Prince of Darkness?

This film has been updated to include Rick Warren’s promotion of Mohammad and awarding Tony Blair with his Global Peace Plan annual award and includes John Wesley’s published expose of the religion of Islam.  James Sundquist’s presentation was featured on Andy Andersen Live, WMCA Radio in New York, Prime Time Live, Moody Broadcasting Network, “Watchman on the Wall” national radio program, and recommended by Calvary Contender magazine and featuring in his book Rick Warren’s Global Peace Plan vs. Scriptural Teachings on Peace, published by Southwest Radio Church. 1 hour film.

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from Holy Bible Prophecy:

Can the Church borrow the marketing tools of the world and apply them to the Church? What is the history of the Church Growth movement and its false premises? Who is involved in the new evangelicalism and second reformation? Why are these movements embracing contemplative mysticism? How does this movement play into the New World Order? These questions and more are answered in Church of Tares: Purpose Driven, Seeker-Sensitive, Church Growth & New World Order.

Church of Tares chronicles the man-centered pragmatism of these evangelical Christian movements in comparison to the Bible’s instruction for building the Church of Jesus Christ. As a sequel to The Real Roots of the Emergent Church, Church of Tares documents the connections between the liberal Emergent Church movement and the Church Growth movement. Both movements’ leadership were discipled by business management guru Peter Drucker, who was attracted to the megachurch movement as a social phenomenon that could bring about his “new society” and New World Order. Megacurch pastors Rick Warren and Bill Hybels as well as Leadership Network founder Bob Buford all acknowledge Drucker (who professed not to be a Christian) as their mentor and have built their organizations upon his secular business management philosophies rather than the foundation of Jesus Christ.

The fruit of these movements is great compromise of the Gospel and the Great Commission. Rick Warren claims to be ushering in a new spiritual awakening and second reformation with his P.E.A.C.E. Plan. But this reform appears to be a social reformation rather than a spiritual one by joining together in ministry with unbelievers to fight global giants. Such compromise has led to the affirming response letter to the Common Word document which declares Muhammad to be a prophet and the Bible and Qur’an to be of the “same Divine origin.”

For more information visit www.holybibleprophecy.org

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from The “Christian” Post:

Is there no end to the lack of spiritual discernment within the Christian community? Even some of our Church leaders are showing a startling lack of discernment. And if we can’t trust our leaders to help us stay on the straight and narrow path, who can we trust?

On October 5th, Southern Baptist preacher Rick Warren sat down with New Age/New Thought high priestess Oprah Winfrey for an interview. Although Oprah claims to be a Christian she most assuredly is not as I clearly demonstrate here and here. Joel Osteen, who is said to be “one of America’s most influential spiritual leaders,” appeared on the show prior to Warren to promote his new book, “I Declare: 31 Promises To Speak Over Your Life.” Around 45,000 people attend Lakewood Church each Sunday to hear Osteen preach the word-faith prosperity gospel “lite.” It’s really not surprising that he was invited to appear on “Oprah’s Life Class.” The duo has become fast friends ever since she and Tyler Perry attended a Lakewood service some months back. They soon discovered how like-minded they are. In fact, Osteen has this Oprahesque declaration on his website:

The words we speak set the course for our life. If you want to know what you’re going to be like in five years, listen to the words you are saying about yourself today.

Egads!

Osteen not only teaches a false gospel, he apparently has scant knowledge of the scriptures which is the main reason the man who pastors the largest megachurch in America is unaware that the Lord has called His followers to “rightly divide the word of truth” (2 Tm 2:15).

Rick Warren’s claim to fame is his books “The Purpose Driven Church” and “The Purpose Driven Life.” PDL is the best-selling hardback non-fiction book in American history and is translated into more than 50 languages. By using modern marketing methods he helped lay the foundation for the Church Growth movement (CGM). Largely due to the popularity of his purpose-driven books the CGM has spread through churches like a windstorm sweeping across the Great Plains, ushering in a “new paradigm” of transformational leadership to meet the challenge of the new century. CGM “emphasizes mainly missionary work combined with sociological awareness of the target population.” In other words, it utilizes slick marketing techniques. The object is to reach the “unchurched” using the age-old principle: You can draw more flies with honey than with vinegar. Hence, the “seeker-sensitive” label.

Over the years Pastor Warren has become controversial, and rightly so, for a multitude of reasons which I’ve tackled here and here. For one reason or another controversy continually swirls around “America’s Pastor.” Still, he is highly regarded by many in the Christian community and likewise the press. What’s stunning is that he’s often invited to speak at events with New Calvinist luminaries like John Piper, Mark Driscoll, James MacDonald and Matt Chandler. Before I move on, I must bring to light influential Reformed theologian John Piper’s recent endorsement of Rick Warren. Many of us in the discernment ministries were both surprised and troubled by his endorsement. Christine Pack observed:

[Piper] gave his “stamp of approval” by having Warren be a keynote speaker at Dr. Piper’s annual Desiring God conference. This was an event that caught many in evangelicalism off guard and resulted in a flurry of articles and blog posts over a number of months. The problem with Dr. Piper welcoming Rick Warren into the fold is that Dr. Piper has long been known as a champion and protector of the purity of the gospel message. (Source)

Pastor celebrity James MacDonald was once asked to comment on the “seeker movement” and he replied, “The seeker movement [should be] subtitled: How to Fill Your Church with Tares.” Later he publically affirmed Rick Warren in a tweet even knowing that the seeker movement that filled churches with heathens was the brain child of “possibility thinker” Robert Schuller. His most recognized disciples are Bill Hybels and Rick Warren. Excuse me, but a shepherd’s duty is to point out error and guard the flock from wolves in sheep’s clothing, not to invite them into the sheep pen!

Sorry to digress.

Another prominent pastor who shares the stage with Rick Warren is Greg Laurie of Harvest Christian Fellowship, a Calvary Chapel in Riverside, CA. Laurie is best known as the founder and featured speaker for Harvest Crusades.

So, what is going on in the visible Church?

Glad you asked. In a word: syncretism. Syncretism occurs when elements of other religious beliefs are mashed into mainstream Protestant denominations. In a piece entitled Purpose Driven Dismantling of Christianity, I examined the effect syncretism has on the Church:

Satan uses syncretism to separate God from His people. God loathes syncretism:

“When the LORD thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land; Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.” (Deuteronomy 12:29-31)

Grievous wolves (Acts 20:29) masquerading as evangelicals introduced false religious beliefs (abominations) into mainline churches. Many of them are forthcoming about what they’re doing, others not so much. Their main goal is … change. The plan (yes, they have a plan) is to dismantle historic orthodox Christianity and usher in a “new paradigm,” a “new kind of Christianity.”

Wolves are skillful at drawing people in. They’ve learned how to use TV, radio, the Worldwide Web, human potential seminars, psycho-therapeutic counseling, so-called Christian entertainment that includes movies, DVDs, books and music. Some believers are drawn in through political groups. As you can see, a whole host of lures are used to bait the hook.

Many professing Christians have accepted the blending of religious beliefs with no questions asked. They sit in churches where they’re not taught the truth but are fed a steady diet of half truths and outright lies! Jesus wanted those who believe in Him to read and understand the Word. “Sanctify them through thy truth,” He prayed. “Thy Word is truth!” (John 17:17 ) (Source)

Now, let’s get to my questions: Why did Rick Warren agree to do an interview with Oprah? Moreover, why would he want to be associated with word-faith heretic Joel Osteen? We discover after the fact that he did not use the opportunity to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with the lost, many of whom were tuned into the show. No. Instead he used his time with Oprah to pass on his sage advice to the audience, peppered with a few Bible quotes — taken out of context!

Former New Ager and astrologer Marcia Montenegro watched the 3 hours of live taping on Oprah’s Life Class. I think the following excerpt about what she observed clearly identifies the sort of pastor Rick Warren is:

Although Rick Warren has had New Age Dr. Oz at his church (along with a supposedly Christian doctor who also endorses some New Age practices), I was hoping he (RW) would somehow give the gospel in the midst of his motivational advice, but he never did. He used the imagery of a poker game to explain we are dealt certain cards, and then gave a teaching on this that sounded like moralistic self-help programs I’ve heard so many times, throwing in a few Bible quotes taken out of context or misquoted. It was something almost any New Ager could accept. God becomes a tool for self-improvement and success. Warren referred to Jesus, but took scripture out of context and applied things said to believers to everyone. He also misused the Proverbs passage that says “as a man thinketh, so is he.” This passage is a famous passage misused by New Thought proponents and is used in “The Secret.” What was really hard to watch is when a woman in Norway Skyped to say she realized she needed God but wanted to know who God is and she asked, “What should I do?” It was clear that she was ripe to hear the gospel and needed Jesus! It was a great opportunity to share the gospel with her, and at the same time, for Oprah to hear it. Instead of giving the gospel, Rick Warren seemed uncomfortable and finally just said something like, ‘Go to God and find your purpose.” It was a terrible moment! The woman looked surprised and sad, like she was expecting something else. I prayed for her later and am hoping that the many Christians who witnessed this will pray for her. Not only that, but when Oprah referred to God, as she often did, Rick Warren agreed with her as though she was referring to the biblical God, which she was not. He even said a few times, “Oprah has a good point.” No, she never did! She was speaking totally out of her New Thought/New Age beliefs. I am grateful that RW recommended that people read the gospel of John. That was the best thing he said. (Read Marcia’s entire piece here)

Why do so many followers of Jesus Christ view Rick Warren as dangerous? Evangelist Tony Miano’s indictment is blunt:

Plastic pastors transparent enough to see through, like Joel Osteen, are not as dangerous as Rick Warren. Modalistic moguls of the painfully-obvious-money-hungry prosperity movement, like T.D. Jakes, are not as dangerous as Rick Warren. Self-serving sorcerers of the false signs and wonders movement, like Todd Bentley, are not as dangerous as Rick Warren. No. None of the before-mentioned personalities or groups are all that dangerous because what you see is what you get. They all lack the ability to change their appearance to accommodate a change in environment. They lack the chameleon-like ability, the self-serving ability, to say what needs to be said in order to keep people in every camp liking them.

Now listen to former Catholic Priest Richard Bennett:

Warren teaches that God ‘created the church to meet your five deepest needs’ just as the Roman Catholic Church says, ‘The Church is the mother of all believers.’ Warren, like Rome, has switched from obedience to the Word and Person of the Living God to submission to a church to achieve one’s needs. It is the oldest and cleverest temptation known to man.

I’ll close with warning from the Lord Jesus:

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous [ferocious] wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. (Mat. 5:15-20)

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from Summer Patriot, Winter Soldier:

Mohammed does not deny the God of the Jews and the Christians.  he does not deny God’s divinity, nor his absolute nature.

neither does mohammed deny the prophesy of god, nor the divine inspiration of his gospel and the prophets who have brought it before the faithful, or the less than entirely faithful.

he says that god is singular.

rather, mohammed in any number of places in the koran asserts that he is a prophet of that god, in a long line of prophets of that god, and that what he preaches and delivers to his people in arabic so that they might understand and accept it, is the gospel of joseph, of moses, of john the baptist, and of jesus of nazareth.  mohammed does rather gratuitously add that he is the final prophet of god.

and mohammed betrays the assertion that he preaches the gospel, the message and direction of god.

he does it by preaching a lie that is monstrous.

mohammed says that god has delivered falsehood up to his chosen, and those who would follow his path, who would stand firmly upon his rock and the rock of truth.

mohammed posits on the matter of the divinity of jesus that god has puposely misled his flocks into believing that jesus is divine, and that it is now to mohammed to reveal that he is mortal, and no more than a man, as mohammed:

mohammad simply relates that it is revealed to him, by god, that previous prophets, including jesus, are bound by promise to god to acknowledge the word of mohammad as god’s messenger on these issues [the divinity of christ], where mohammeddeparts/differs/contradicts previous biblical prophesy (including, i would suppose, the book revelations, … , mohammed is not included in revelations):

sura 3.  verses 81 and 86.

81.  god took a pledge from the prophets, saying, “if, after i have bestowed scripture and wisdom upon you, a messenger comes confirming what you have been given, you must believe him and support him.  do you affirm this and accept my pledge as binding on you?”  they said, “we do.”  he said, “then bear witness and i too will bear witness.”   82.  those who turn away after this are the ones who break pledges.  83.  do they seek anything other than submission to god?  everyone in the heavens and earth submits to him, willingly or unwillingly; they will all be returned to him.

84.  say [muhammad], “we [muslims] believe in god and in what has been sent down to us and to abraham, ishmael, isaac, jacob, an the tribes.  we believe in what has been given to moses, jesus, and the prophets from their lord.  we do not make a distinction between any of them  it is to him that we devotes ourselves.”  85.  if anyone seeks a religion other than [islam] complete devotion to god, it will not be accepted from him: he will be one of the losers in the hereafter.  86.  why would god guide people who deny the truth, after they have believed and acknowledged that he messenger is true, and after they have been show clear proof?  god does not guide evildoers.

sura 3, verses 81-86, the qur’an, a translation by muhammad a.s. abdel haleem, oxford university press, 2004, u.s.a.

it is all rather stunning.

in these few short, terse paragraphs, islam asserts that god gathers his prophets through time before him, and extracts a promise from them that they will not contradict what they have been given by god to tell the people, … , ” … if, after i have bestowed scripture and wisdom upon you, a messenger comes confirming what you have been given … , “if a messenger comes after them with a message contrary to what they have already told the people as the voice of god.

so, in short, and as pertains to the issue of jesus, god has revealed to his prophets his message, they have spoken his message, which has been that jesus is the son of god, and they have told the people that this is the voice of god speaking through them.

as prophets of god.

and, islam describes them repeatedly as the prophets of god.

teller of the word of god.  truth tellers.

and, in these passages, god tells them that they are to be turned into, … , and this is the politest way i can put it, … , well, fibbers, in on the fix, as it were.

in short, in this revelation mohammed asserts that god has told him that he has previously deceived mankind about these matters, and that mohammed is to reveal to mankind this deception, and that mankind is to accept mohammed as revealing this “truth.”  it reminds me of the classic greek paradox, about the man from ________, and that all men from __________ are liars.

we are to believe that god reveals to mohammed, that mankind is to trust god in the matter of mohammed’s revelations, because god has lied previously through his prophets.  these paragraphs are on their face ridiculous.

and notice the colossal lie that the Qur’an and islam engage in during the course of this revelation to mohammed.  it is underlined in the above paragraphs.  i trust you notice it.”

in short, mohammed says that god has misled the people on the matter of the divinity of jesus.  and, that the prophets before mohammed are brought before god and are sworn to be in on this deception.  this means, that mohammed has simply quite audaciously said, that the prophets have preached the gospel in falsehood, and done it in collusion with one another, and at the instruction of god.

i assert that mohammed preachs falsity on this point, to assert the blasphemous statement that god and his prophets preached falsity on a matter no less important that the divinity of jesus, … ,  and, that all, including god, conspired to preach falsity.

a pity, and a sign of the spiritual poverty of our age, that the simple truths offered above come from a simple & obscure man, rather than the pope of the catholics, the arch bishop of canterbury of the head of the orthodox.

it is in the text of the koran.  it is assuredly the voice of mohammed, and islam would have you believe that it is the voice and instruction of god.  i believe that it is the voice of mohammed, i refuse to either believe or accept that it is the voice of god, and i refuse to be guided by it, and repudiate it.

and, based on this, i repudiate any possibility that mohammed speaks, or ever spoke, with the voice of god as his authority.

mohammed and islam are the conspirators, and they have conspired to mislead on this and many other matters the history of islam.  in a nutshell.

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