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Oprah Winfrey, new age pagan believer an honored guest at Osteen’s “church”

“Houstonian Diego Quintanilla, who was sitting near the duo, tweeted: “I’m freaking out!! I can’t breathe! It smells like money and amazingness!!”

And that quote pretty much typifies the mindless, shallow & Biblically illiterate  that attend Osteen’s “church”

from The Houston Chronicle:

Oprah Winfrey created a buzz Sunday in Houston with a surprise appearance at the 11 a.m. service at Lakewood Church.

Oprah is in town interviewing Pastor Joel Osteen as a part of her new series Oprah’s Next Chapter premiering in January on OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network.

The show will feature conversations with real people, newsmakers and celebrities.

Seated in the front row of the crowd of roughly 13,000, Oprah and Tyler Perry were announced as guests at the service. Houstonian Diego Quintanilla, who was sitting near the duo, tweeted: “I’m freaking out!! I can’t breathe! It smells like money and amazingness!!”

Oprah joined Osteen and his wife, Victoria, for lunch at their home and spoke with them about faith, marriage, power and ego, according to Lakewood officials.

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Everytime this man opens his mouth he displays his ignorance and proof that he has zero knowledge of God’s Word

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Not to mention that Joel Osteen is Biblically illiterate! He does not understand Christs OWN words in regards to there being false christ’s and false prophets who will come in Christ’s name:

Matthew 24:24:

For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.

Joel Osteen considers Mormons & Jehovah’s Witnesses fellow christians because they believe in a “christ”

from “Study your Bible Online”:

My fellow residents of the Nashville area have probably seen the billboards around town.  If not, maybe you have noticed the Facebook ads, or caught the recent Tennessean article.  All of these are advertising “A Night of Hope.”  The speaker for this event is Joel Osteen.

Joel Osteen is a well-known “preacher.”  He has a best selling book and is the “pastor” at one of the largest churches in America. Joel Osteen is a Word of Faith preacher, or commonly called a “Health and Wealth” preacher.  His sermons combine pop psychology with a sprinkling of Scripture.  The message is positive claiming that God desires for Christians to be wealthy and healthy and the key to unlocking these blessings from God is to empower your faith.

I could write a whole series about the problems with the word of faith movement (and I think I will at some point), but I want to focus on the idea of hope in this post.  Joel Osteen is supposed to have an evening of hope.  Hope is something people are looking for in all times, but more so during tough times.  I have no doubt Joel will have a large group buying tickets for this event.

I am saddened though because if the event is anything like the other material I’ve heard and read from Joel, what is being offered is false hope.  False hope to people struggling with money, that if they would use their faith (as if faith is some magical force) that God would make them rich.  False hope that they could be healed if they just read the right verses and declared God’s promises for them.  Preying on individuals during tough times, or anytime, is despicable.  The truth of the matter is Christians get sick and die.  Christians lose their jobs.  Putting hope in these things is false hope.

The true hope that all Christians have, and all people need is the hope offered in the gospel.  The hope that our sins are forgiven and that we have peace with God and joy no matter our circumstances.  This hope allow us to endure anything this life has to offer.  It is the hope, that Paul states in Philippians, allow us to be joyful both when he have more than enough, and when he have less than is needed.  It is the hope that even if we die of sickness that God will raise us from the dead to a land without sickness.  It is the hope that there is a better life awaiting us all.

True hope is in the gospel of Jesus Christ.  That God became flesh, lived a perfect life, died, was buried, and was raised on our behalf.   Don’t buy this false hope.

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from Gay Christian Movement Watch:

Joel Osteen leads 44,000 people (per their own claims) at Lakewood Church, but when he is in the public spotlight his lukewarm and tepid response to moral issues leave millions scratching their heads about him. The question: is Joel just a figure head pastor? Is someone else writing his sermons and messages? Its sad and tragic that a person with such influence lacks the spiritual authority to speak truth and stand by it without apology.

The super pastor’s recent appearance on a CNN talk show caused people on both sides of the issue of homosexuality to criticize him. Osteen appears to not want to anger anyone, so he attempts to soften the truth after he’s spoken it. But that makes him sound unconvincing on either. Jesus warned against lukewarm positions when it came to the truth.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

And does the rest of the passage describe America’s largest and richest local church?

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. Rev 3:15-18

The Christian Post reported that while homosexual activist leaders derided his words as “dangerous and irresponsible”, Rev. Albert Mohler stopped short of praising him. Clearly, Osteen seemed to only add more confusion to the issue.

LGBT group the Human Rights Campaign called for an immediate apology, arguing that his statement “adds a burden to those already struggling to accept their sexual orientation or gender identity.”

“One would hope Mr. Osteen would use his pulpit, with an audience of over 7 million people, to tell all human beings that they are loved just the way they are,” said HRC President Joe Solmonese. “Instead he chose to send a dangerous and irresponsible message.”

Evangelical leader R. Albert Mohler, Jr., who does not agree with Osteen’s “updated version of prosperity theology,” was glad to hear the renowned pastor – who reaches 10 million television viewers nationwide – affirm the Bible’s teaching. But Mohler stopped short of praising Osteen.

“Thankfully, he did not deny that homosexuality is a sin. We can only have hoped that he would have given a more bold answer, followed by an equal boldness in the power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ,” Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said in a commentary Thursday.

Although he has been “pastoring” some fourteen years now, Osteen seems no closer to principled stands than he was when first questioned about the issue. . . . .

read the full article here.

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from The “Christian” Post:

Globally recognized pastor Joel Osteen has been drawing some flak from the press and the public in the past few months over his comments on homosexuality.

His remarks last year on “The View” and “Larry King Live” that “homosexuality is not God’s best” drew fire from the gay rights community and from Christians for avoiding to identify the behavior as a sin.

More recently, his participation in the inauguration of Houston’s first openly gay mayor has also drawn some – but less fiery – attention.

Pastor of America’s largest church, Osteen was invited to offer the opening prayer at the inauguration of Houston’s elected city officials on Monday. While praying for the 14-member City Council, he also specifically thanked God for the new mayor, Annise Parker, a partnered lesbian.

“She’s our mayor. Joel doesn’t view Annise through a gay lens,” Don Iloff, Jr., spokesman for Lakewood Church in Houston, told The Christian Post. “He sees her as a person.”

And the Bible instructs believers to pray for and respect those who govern us, he added.

“If you ask Joel he’ll tell you ‘when I can pray at an event over government leaders and in Jesus’ name it’s hard to resist,'” Iloff said. Osteen prayed for the previous mayor, Bill White, at his inauguration.

The spokesman also pointed out that Parker has never pushed or highlighted any kind of gay agenda during her time in government and during her campaign.

“She’s an all business kind of gal,” he said.

During the swearing-in ceremony Monday, the former city controller addressed the economy, public safety and education. She also briefly addressed the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community saying, “I feel your excitement and your joy, your apprehension and your longing for acceptance. I will gladly carry you forward. But today is simply one step toward a tomorrow of greater justice,” according to the Houston Chronicle.

If Parker begins pushing a homosexual agenda, Iloff said Lakewood Church and Pastor Osteen are likely to distance themselves from her.

“Annise says she’s a believer. Let her stand before God; that’s kind of where Joel is,” Iloff noted. “He’s not going to tell homosexuals they can’t come to our church. If the Holy Spirit convicts them, then they’ll change.”

Osteen does not affirm homosexual behavior. Though the pastor himself has never specifically called it a “sin,” his spokesman Iloff says they believe homosexuality is a sin. But sin is sin and homosexuality is no worse a sin than others, such as adultery, Iloff pointed out.

Lakewood Church maintains good relations with city officials, some of whom attend the megachurch. Two of the City Council members are regular Lakewood attendees. Politicians, however, are not allowed to speak from the pulpit.

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Joel Osteen’s wishy washy non-beliefs gets him slaughtered on “The View”

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“He prefers telling endearing domestic stories about himself and his 21st-century friends and relatives to rehashing the dusty tales of Scripture.”

I guess Joel thinks he knows more than God himself!

Psalm 1:1-3:

Blessed is the man
         Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
         Nor stands in the path of sinners,
         Nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
 But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
         And in His law he meditates day and night.
 He shall be like a tree
         Planted by the rivers of water,
         That brings forth its fruit in its season,
         Whose leaf also shall not wither;
         And whatever he does shall prosper.

from Hattiesburg American:

Considering that he is fast becoming the most popular preacher in the country, Joel Osteen doesn’t act or sound like a preacher at all. He has no seminary training and can hardly talk about any religion other than his own brand of creamy, fat-free Christianity (all the hope, none of the sin).

He prefers telling endearing domestic stories about himself and his 21st-century friends and relatives to rehashing the dusty tales of Scripture.

When he preaches at the new Yankee Stadium on Saturday, becoming the first nonbaseball attraction there, he will be his humble, likable, wavy-haired self and nothing more.

“I feel like I don’t need to preach. I just want to talk to the people,” he said. “My gift is to help encourage people. I’m more than happy to leave other things, other areas, to other pastors, who have different gifts.”

Supernatural rise

Osteen has become so big, so fast that analyzing his appeal has become something of an academic field. Having preached for less than a decade, Osteen, 46, presides over a Houston church in a former basketball arena that draws 40,000 people on Sundays. His televised sermons are seen by more than 7 million Americans a week and millions more around the world.

He’s had two best-selling books and a third, “It’s Your Time,” will come out in November. He’s only been preaching on the road for five years, but is taking the stage at the new Yankee Stadium before A-Rod for what he calls “A Night of Hope.” He appeals to conservatives and liberals, Texas Republicans and Nancy Pelosi, Pentecostal Christians filled with the Holy Spirit and atheists filled with none.

“I wish I could explain it better,” he said of his appeal in a recent interview with The Journal News. “I don’t have an answer. I guess it’s that my message is positive and hopeful. People stop me on the street, whether they are bikers or bankers. I’ve had atheists tell me that they watch me on TV.

“It’s got to be God,” he said, “because it’s not me.”

Tulane University’s Shayne Lee, an expert on superstar evangelists, said Osteen is young, fresh, likable and doesn’t have the baggage of the televangelists of old.

“He understands the importance of TV and uses the language of contemporary American society – the language of psychotherapy, the language of Americans who watch Oprah and Dr. Phil,” said Lee, whose new book, “Holy Mavericks,” profiles Osteen and four other pastors with national followings. “Osteen understands that his brand is not to condemn, but uplift. If the caricature of the typical evangelist is a fingerpointing loudmouth, Osteen seems so trustworthy that he’s the boy next door.”

Osteen is well-known, and somewhat controversial, for preaching that putting one’s faith in God will bring spiritual and material rewards. He likes to say that God wants us to experience a life of abundance, a belief system often described as a “prosperity gospel.” One might think that the recession could put a crimp in such a gospel. But Osteen isn’t buying.

“I know the recession is causing anxiety and worry, but my message is to stay positive,” he said. “Faith is about believing and hoping and expecting. Don’t get bitter, negative, discouraged, when we know God is so good. We know from Scripture that we all have trying times, but if one door closes, God will open another.”

Osteen will bring this message to Yankee Stadium, which he’s renting for about $1.5 million. “God will do what we cannot,” he said. “He will do the supernatural.”

A gift from his father

The story of Osteen’s rise is hard to explain but easy to summarize.

His father, John Osteen, founded Lakewood Church in Houston in 1959 and built a congregation of about 6,000 people. For 17 years, Joel was his father’s AV guy, running the church’s television ministry.

In September 1999, Joel preached for the first time. The following week, his father died. Joel took over as pastor, his training consisting of having listened to his father’s sermons.

The new pastor preached in his own style, telling stories and building people up. The church grew.

Only six years later, in 2005, Lakewood Church moved into the 16,000-seat former home of the Houston Rockets basketball team. Almost 40,000 people attend weekly services, and Lakewood is famous for its diversity.

“Our music is not traditional hymns,” he said. “My message is not about doctrine. I don’t have to get 50 references from Scripture in a sermon for it to be a good sermon. Churches that are helping people live out a Christian life are growing and flourishing.”

Osteen doesn’t believe that faith is declining in America, as some national studies seem to show. He believes that many spiritual people with Christian leanings may not say they are religious because they’ve left “traditional, denominational” churches.

“I want to be careful not to criticize anybody or be negative,” he said, hesitating a bit. “But we need to change with the times. That doesn’t mean the old times weren’t good. I mean, my dad’s style was different. My style is to get up there and inspire.”

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from Gay Christian Movement Watch:

Is it telling that the most popular Christian “preacher” in America is actually not a preacher but a motivational speaker with no biblical training whatsoever and seems uncomfortable using the bible? So for just $15, Joel Osteen gave his fans a motivational bailout speech in New York. [full article]

Osteen: “My message is not about doctrine. I don’t have to get 50 references from Scripture in a sermon for it to be a good sermon. I want to be careful not to criticize anybody or be negative. I feel like I don’t need to preach. I just want to talk to the people.”

Bible that he doesn’t like using:

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2Tim 4:3-4

Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 1 Tim 4:13

Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you. 1 Tim 4:16

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds. 2 John 1:9-11

God, who cannot lie, promised before time began, but has in due time manifested His word through preaching, which was committed to me according to the commandment of God our Savior Titus 1:2,3

And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? Romans 10:14,15

Osteen fan Sonja Smash: “He reaches everyone, regardless of your background, and goes beyond doctrine,” said Smash, 40, an executive assistant who discovered Osteen on TV. “He delivers a universal message, inspirational nuggets, something for you to chew on and contemplate. We don’t need just fire ‘n’ brimstone, but inspirational messages on how to live our daily lives.”

Bible she doesnt want to hear:

For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account. Heb 4:12,13

So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Eph 5:6

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hmmm . . . .  doctrine does not matter and Mormon’s are saved, but honoring God means you do not eat Pork or Shellfish! sounds like works to me!

Romans 6:14:

For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

Matthew 15:11:

Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”

Someone should tell Joel it is not a sin to eat pork or shellfish, but that you will not go to Heaven if you do not believe in the Jesus of the Bible and that works count for nothing before God!

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from ChristianNewsWire:

INDIANAPOLIS, April 28 /Christian Newswire/ — Chris Rosebrough, captain of internet based Pirate Christian Radio and host of the Fighting for the Faith Radio program announced on Monday that Joel Osteen is the winner of the “Worst Easter Sermon Award” for 2009.

“Every Christmas Christians whine and complain about secular and atheistic efforts designed to take Christ out of Christmas yet more and more Christian pastors have committed an even worse offense and have removed Jesus Christ and His victorious resurrection from the grave from their Easter sermons,” said Chris Rosebrough. “Far too many pastors have played the role of Judas and have betrayed Jesus. Rather than being paid 30 pieces of silver, these pastors have sold Jesus out for the fame and adulation that accompany having a ‘growing, relevant ‘man-centered’ church’.”

Said Rosebrough, “These Churches have stopped preaching the offense of Christ Crucified for Sins and His resurrection for our justification and have traded the Biblical Gospel for empty feel-good platitudes, and self-help mythologies that scratch itching ears.”

Rosebrough decided that it was time to raise awareness of this serious and growing problem within Christianity and to call these pastors to repentance by holding a contest on his radio program whereby his listeners would decide which sermon was the Worst Easter Sermon of 2009.

In preparation for this contest, Rosebrough screened nearly 100 sermons from churches across America and picked the 5 worst ones to be contestants for this new ‘award’.

The sermons Rosebrough picked for this year’s contest included:

A sermon that explored the “deep” spiritual lessons of the movie Slumdog Millionaire .

A sermon entitled “Beer Babes & Baseball”

A sermon entitled “Livin’ Venti” that encouraged people to live life to the fullest.

A sermon entitled “You Have Come Back Power”

And a sermon entitled “Easter in the Octagon”

This year’s winner of the first ever, Worst Easter Sermon Award went to Joel Osteen’s sermon “You Have Come Back Power”.

Commenting on Osteen’s sermon Rosebrough stated, “Jesus didn’t die and rise again on the cross so that you can have ‘come back power over life’s set backs’. Osteen completely missed the point of Jesus’ life, death and resurrection and as a result he missed the entire point of Christianity.”

Said Rosebrough, “I wasn’t surprised that Osteen was the first winner of this award. Osteen is like the Tiger Woods of heresy, he takes false teaching to a whole new level.”

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