I saw this coming for years, but no one would believe it!
Megachurch leader and author T.D. Jakes says that homosexuals should attend congregations that affirm their lifestyle and that politics do not need to reflect biblical ethics, adding that his position on homosexuality is both “evolved and evolving.”
During an interview with the Huffington Post on Monday, Jakes was asked by a viewer if he believes that homosexuals and the black church can co-exist.
“Absolutely… I think it is going to be diverse from church to church. Every church has a different opinion on the issue and every gay person is different,” he replied. “And I think that to speak that the church—the black church, the white church or any kind of church you wanna call it—are all the same, is totally not true.”
“The church should have the right to have its own convictions and values; if you don’t like those convictions and values [and] you totally disagree with it, don’t try to change my house, move into your own … and find somebody who gets what you get about faith,” Jakes added.
He said that the issue of homosexuality is “complex.”
“Paul spends a lot of time wrestling back and forth, trying to understand should a woman wear a head covering, should you cut your hair,” Jakes stated. “I mean, they grappled back then and we’re grappling now because we’re humans and we are flawed and we’re not God.”
“Once you understand you’re not God, you leave yourself an ‘out’ clause to grow,” he said.
When asked if his position on homosexuality has “evolved,” Jakes agreed that it has.
“Evolved and evolving,” he replied. “I think that where I am is to better understand we, the church, bought into the myth that this is a Christian nation.”
Earlier this year, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states must legalize same-sex “marriage,” igniting a battle between the Church and State over the issue. In his comments on Monday, Jakes advocated for the separation of Church and State, which would allow for “all types of people” to have whatever rights they desire despite biblical prohibitions. He said that politics don’t need to be based on Christianity.
“[O]nce you get past [thinking America is a Christian nation] … Once you begin to understand that democracy—that a republic actually—is designed to be an overarching system to protect our unique nuances, then we no longer look for public policy to reflect biblical ethics,” Jakes explained.
“If we can divide—or what you would call separation of Church and State—then we can dwell together more effectively because atheists, agnostics, Jews, all types of people, Muslims, pay into the government. The government then cannot reflect one particular view over another just because we’re the dominant group of religious people in [this] country because those numbers are changing every day,” he asserted. “We need a neutralized government that protects our right to disagree with one another and agree with one another.”
Jakes had visited the Huffington Post to discuss his new book on “destiny.” The interview focused on motivational subject matter in following one’s dreams and passions as opposed to the eternal destiny of the soul.
I’m in agreement with you. I always knew Ole TD was a slippery fellow; he condemns himself with his own words. And now, this is nothing more than compromise and the mark of Balaam. So then, if the blind follow him into the ditch he’s headed for, it will be to their own destruction.
Christians want to ignore the ambiguous words that well known “pastors” use on controversial subjects. when they should be using the the following rule: If ANYONE equivocates on what we know are Biblical absolute: Flee from them, and warn others about them!
Yep, that ole Bible is a pesky little thing! After all… We’ve evolved, don’t cha know! 🙂
Won’t he be surprised !
Norman
No homosexuals will get into heaven unless they repent; no matter what church they attend. In the books of Acts the “church” reflected biblical teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said, In the beginning God made them male and female enough said, Man’s opinion doesn’t matter; God’s word is settled in heaven and he has magnified his word above his name. Jake’s uses the term “worship” for “LGBT’S, but it is not the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ which they worship. If it is another gospel then it is another Jesus. For Jake’s to say that the issue of homosexually is “complex” is a cop-out to say the least! Men’s opinions, fancies and whims will wither and die with them. We need to pray for people like Jake’s that they will repent; you cannot seem to be lukewarm on issues like this. The Lord would have you to be either red-hot or cold, if you are lukewarm he will spew you out of his mouth. This is not the spirit of Christ which is speaking. We have to be honest and clear with homosexuals; not verge on compromising with our words when it comes to salvation. Jesus spoke in love, but was always forth-right, for he was and is the word of God.
Jakes’ answer speaks volumes; weak, watered down and feckless. Either homosexuality is a sin as the Bible clearly identifies it or it should be fully accepted as normal. Well it isn’t normal regardless of how much people may think it is. Now how we as followers of Jesus deal w it AS A SIN is a fair question; are we compassionate in how we deal w people as Jesus is towards us? If not, we need to repent of being hard hearted. But it IS NOT compassion to compromise what the scriptures clearly say on this issue.