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		<title>&#8220;Bishop&#8221; Eddie Long&#8217;s New Birth ceremony with Torah disrespectful, Jewish leaders say</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you drop off the cliff into the depts of depravity and abject apostasy as Mr. Long has nothing is surprising anymore, except for the fact that ANYONE actually attends a &#8220;church&#8221; that he leads! from The Atlanta Journal and Constitution: &#8220;Bishop&#8221; Long Crowned King! A ceremony held Sunday at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, in which [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=7005&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you drop off the cliff into the depts of depravity and abject apostasy as Mr. Long has nothing is surprising anymore, except for the fact that ANYONE actually attends a &#8220;church&#8221; that he leads!</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/new-birth-ceremony-with-1328502.html" target="_blank">from The Atlanta Journal and Constitution:</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Bishop&#8221; Long Crowned King!</p>
<p>A ceremony held Sunday at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, in which Bishop Eddie Long was wrapped in a sacred Torah scroll and carried upon a throne, has the Internet abuzz and Jewish religious leaders offended and questioning its appropriateness.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s a king. God has blessed him,&#8221; said Rabbi Ralph Messer before covering Long in a scroll &#8220;[that] may still have the dust of Auschwitz and Birkenau.&#8221; Messer referred to the Nazi extermination camps in Poland where millions of Jews were murdered during the Holocaust.</p>
<p>A Torah&#8217;s use in a ceremony ordaining Long as &#8220;a king&#8221; is  offensive to many Jews, said Bill Nigut, Southeast Regional Director of  the Anti-Defamation League.</p>
<p>The ceremony at Long&#8217;s Lithonia church, viewed more than 139,000 times on YouTube, &#8220;in no way represents any Jewish ritual that I&#8217;m familiar with,&#8221; Nigut said. &#8220;We do not proclaim individuals to be kings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Messer said his parchment, a handwritten copy of the holiest book within Judaism, was 312 years old. His mention of Auschwitz-Birkenau implied the scroll was one of those recovered from the death camps when they were liberated by the Allies toward the end of World War II.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to authenticate Messer&#8217;s claim without examining the texts up close, said Rabbi Joshua Heller of Congregation B&#8217;nai Torah in Sandy Springs. While rare, Torahs can be easily purchased, even on eBay, he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are a fair number of Torah scrolls that survived the war,&#8221; said Heller, adding roughly 1,500 were rescued from Czechoslovakia alone.</p>
<p>More disturbing was the use of this particular Torah in an inappropriate setting, experts on religion say.</p>
<p>“The connection of the Torah scroll to the Holocaust and then to Eddie Long is incomprehensible to me,” said David P. Gushee, a professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University. Gushee is a scholar of the Holocaust and has visited Auschwitz several times.</p>
<p>“What was the point? Was it to signal that Eddie Long was suffering persecution like the Jews at Auschwitz?” Gushee asked.</p>
<p>Messer&#8217;s son, Minister Russell Messer of Simchat Torah Beit Midrash in Parker, Colo., said his father purchased the parchment and relied on the word of its seller regarding its provenance. &#8220;It came through that generation of Europe,&#8221; the younger Messer said.</p>
<p>Russell Messer said that in the next two days, his father &#8212; who has no formal rabbinical training &#8212; plans to post on his organization&#8217;s <strong><a href="http://www.torah.tv/">website</a></strong> the full video of his sermon along with additional comments regarding Sunday&#8217;s service.</p>
<p>When asked for comment about the event, New Birth emailed a statement Thursday in which Ralph Messer said critics misunderstood his intent.</p>
<p>&#8220;My message was about restoring a man and to encourage his walk in the Lord,&#8221; Messer said. &#8220;It was not to make Bishop Eddie L. Long a king.&#8221;</p>
<p>The YouTube video indicates otherwise, Heller told the AJC.</p>
<p>&#8220;We wouldn&#8217;t wrap a Jewish person in a Torah scroll and declare him king,&#8221; he said. &#8220;As a Jew, I find that use of symbols very off-putting.&#8221;</p>
<p>The messenger is as controversial as the message, Jewish leaders say.</p>
<p>Ralph Messer, according to a biography on his organization&#8217;s website, is &#8220;pioneering a work to bring the ‘Good News&#8217; of Yeshua (Jesus Christ) in the Torah to the ends of the Earth.&#8221; He is active in the Messianic Judaism movement, which fuses evangelical Christian beliefs with elements of Jewish tradition.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Jewish community does not associate itself with the Messianic congregations,&#8221; Heller said. &#8220;We don&#8217;t feel like this does due justice to either the Jewish or Christian community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Messer&#8217;s biography says he has ties with prominent evangelicals including the Rev. Kenneth Copeland of Lubbock, Texas, and Paula White, pastor of a charismatic mega-church based in Florida. It says he has made frequent appearances on the Trinity Broadcasting Network.</p>
<p>In his statement Thursday, Ralph Messer said Sunday&#8217;s presentation &#8220;was simply a way of bringing  honor to a man who had given his life to the Lord and had given so much  to his church, the Atlanta metro area and throughout the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Lifting him on the chair was to acknowledge and honor him,&#8221; he said, adding it is consistent with rituals performed at Jewish weddings and Bar mitzvahs.</p>
<p>One worshipper present at the service said it was &#8220;so much more than the video.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If you actually attended the service you would know that Bishop Long was not ordained or considered a king in the worldly sense,&#8221; said New Birth member De&#8217;Yolanda Lowery. &#8220;I do know that Bishop Long is truly a man of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Russell Messer said that his father and Long &#8220;just got to know each other in the last six months.&#8221;</p>
<p>Long was appointed New Birth&#8217;s pastor in 1987 when the church had only 300 members. By its 10th anniversary, New Birth reported a membership of roughly 18,000, peaking at 25,000.</p>
<p>But in September 2010, Long was sued by four former church members who  alleged he used his influence, trips, gifts and jobs to coerce  them into sexual relationships. The suit was settled in May. The church&#8217;s attendance has declined since the sexual coercion lawsuit was filed.</p>
<p>The bishop may have taken comfort in Messer&#8217;s message.</p>
<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t attack [Long],&#8221; Messer said Sunday. &#8220;He&#8217;s sealed. Wherever he turns, the power of God is there. &#8230; It&#8217;s not him, it&#8217;s the king in him.&#8221;</p>
<p>As Long sat behind him, perched on a throne under a spotlight, Messer chanted repeatedly, &#8220;It&#8217;s a new birth,&#8221; eliciting cheers from the congregation.</p>
<p>Mercer&#8217;s Gushee said the  service  may have been an attempt to shore up Long&#8217;s standing in his ministry.</p>
<p>“A lot of things could have been done to shore that up, but this  particularly bizarre ritual was deeply disturbing,” Gushee said. “One  problem with Messianic Judaism, in which leaders attempt to fuse Jewish  and Christian traditions and symbols, is that it can easily stray into  profound insensitivity.”</p>
<p>Jamal-Dominique Hopkins, associate professor of Biblical studies at  Interdenominational Theological Center, said that on viewing the video, “My first impression was, ‘Who is this individual who has the authority to make Bishop Long a king?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s something I’ve never seen or read within the  Judeo-Christian tradition,&#8221; Hopkins said. &#8220;There’s nothing within Scripture that  supports such a practice of this ceremony. It really just stands outside  of the Christian faith.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Bestiality brothels spur call for animal sex ban in Germany</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you ever wanted to know why Europe is &#8220;circling the drain&#8221; into financial oblivion as well as demographic oblivion here is your answer: from The Local: Animal sex abuse is on the rise in Germany, with bestiality brothels being set up across the country, according to a state animal protection officer demanding stronger laws [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=7000&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ever wanted to know why Europe is &#8220;circling the drain&#8221; into financial oblivion as well as demographic oblivion here is your answer:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.thelocal.de/society/20120203-40531.html" target="_blank">from The Local:</a></strong></p>
<p>Animal sex abuse is on the rise in Germany, with bestiality brothels being set up across the country, according to a state animal protection officer demanding stronger laws to protect mankind&#8217;s furry and feathered friends.</p>
<p>Madeleine Martin, the animal protection official for Hessian state government, said the law needed to be changed to make sex abuse of animals – known as zoophilia – a crime.</p>
<p>“It is punishable to distribute animal pornography, but the act itself is not,” she told the Frankfurter Rundschau daily paper on Friday.<br />
“There are even animal brothels in Germany,” she said. Sex with animals was being increasingly seen as a lifestyle choice, and thus more acceptable.<br />
“The abuse seems to be increasingly rapidly, and the internet offers an additional distribution platform,” she said.</p>
<p>She said the justice authorities had found it exceptionally difficult to convict a man from Hesse, who had offered pictures and instructions for animal sex abuse over the internet.</p>
<p>“Zoophilia must be completely banned in the reformed animal protection law,” said Martin, referring to the governments plan to rework that section of the law.</p>
<p>Sex with animals was banned until 1969, when the animal protection law was introduced, but failed to include a specific ban on zoophilia, the Frankfurter Rundschau said.</p>
<p>Martin said the current legal situation makes it too difficult for authorities to intervene – an animal has to be shown to have massive injuries before the animal protection laws prescribe action.</p>
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		<title>What is a Christian worldview?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[from Got Questions: A “worldview” refers to a comprehensive conception of the world from a specific standpoint. A “Christian worldview,” then, is a comprehensive conception of the world from a Christian standpoint. An individual’s worldview is his “big picture,” a harmony of all his beliefs about the world. It is his way of understanding reality. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6997&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.gotquestions.org" target="_blank">from Got Questions:</a></strong></p>
<p>A “worldview” refers to a comprehensive conception of the world from a specific standpoint. A “Christian worldview,” then, is a comprehensive conception of the world from a Christian standpoint. An individual’s worldview is his “big picture,” a harmony of all his beliefs about the world. It is his way of understanding reality. One’s worldview is the basis for making daily decisions and is therefore extremely important.</p>
<p>An apple sitting on a table is seen by several people. A botanist looking at the apple classifies it. An artist sees a still-life and draws it. A grocer sees an asset and inventories it. A child sees lunch and eats it. How we look at any situation is influenced by how we look at the world at large. Every worldview, Christian and non-Christian, deals with at least these three questions:</p>
<p>1) Where did we come from? (and why are we here?)<br />
2) What is wrong with the world?<br />
3) How can we fix it?</p>
<p>A prevalent worldview today is naturalism, which answers the three questions like this: 1) We are the product of random acts of nature with no real purpose. 2) We do not respect nature as we should. 3) We can save the world through ecology and conservation. A naturalistic worldview generates many related philosophies such as moral relativism, existentialism, pragmatism, and utopianism.</p>
<p>A Christian worldview, on the other hand, answers the three questions biblically: 1) We are God’s creation, designed to govern the world and fellowship with Him (Genesis 1:27-28; 2:15). 2) We sinned against God and subjected the whole world to a curse (Genesis 3). 3) God Himself has redeemed the world through the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus Christ (Genesis 3:15; Luke 19:10), and will one day restore creation to its former perfect state (Isaiah 65:17-25). A Christian worldview leads us to believe in moral absolutes, miracles, human dignity, and the possibility of redemption.</p>
<p>It is important to remember that a worldview is comprehensive. It affects every area of life, from money to morality, from politics to art. True Christianity is more than a set of ideas to use at church. Christianity as taught in the Bible is itself a worldview. The Bible never distinguishes between a “religious” and a “secular” life; the Christian life is the only life there is. Jesus proclaimed Himself “the way, the truth, and the life” (John 14:6) and, in doing so, became our worldview.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ireland for centuries has been &#8220;made merchandise&#8221; by the Roman Catholic Church, and now Ireland is turning on that same &#8220;church&#8221;</p>
<p>Revelation 18:4-7:</p>
<p><strong><em>And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. <sup> </sup>For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. <sup> </sup>Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. <sup> </sup>In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ </em></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.independent.ie/national-news/bishop-accused-of-incitement-to-hatred-in-homily-3003057.html" target="_blank">from Independent Ireland:</a></strong></p>
<p>A HOMILY delivered at Knock shrine by the Bishop of Raphoe, Philip Boyce, is being investigated by the Director of Public Prosecutions following a formal complaint by a leading humanist who claims the sermon was an incitement to hatred.</p>
<p> The gardai have confirmed to former Fine Gael election candidate John Colgan that they have prepared and forwarded a file to the DPP after he made allegations that the address by Dr Boyce was in breach of the Prohibition of Incitement to Hatred Act, 1989.</p>
<p>The homily, entitled: &#8220;To Trust in God&#8221; was delivered to worshippers during a novena at the Marian shrine in Co Mayo last August and subsequently reported in the media, including The Irish Times, under the headline: &#8220;&#8216;Godless culture&#8217; attacking church, says bishop.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Colgan, a retired chartered engineer and economist from Leixlip, Co Kildare, referred in his formal complaint to two key passages in Dr Boyce&#8217;s homily which he believes broke the law.</p>
<p>One of the passages referred to the Catholic Church in Ireland being &#8220;attacked from outside by the arrows of a secular and godless culture&#8221;.</p>
<p>A second passage, which was included in the complaint, stated: &#8220;For the distinguishing mark of Christian believers is the fact they have a future; it is not that they know all the details that await them, but they know in general terms that their life will not end in emptiness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Colgan, who was a leader in the &#8216;Campaign to Separate Church and State&#8217; in the late 1990s, said in his complaint: &#8220;I believe statements of this kind are an incitement to hatred of dissidents, outsiders, secularists, within the meaning of the [Incitement to Hatred] Act, who are perfectly good citizens within the meaning of the civil law. The statements exemplify the chronic antipathy towards secularists, humanists etc, which has manifested itself in the ostracising of otherwise perfectly good Irish citizens, who do not share the aims of the Vatican&#8217;s Irish Mission Church.&#8221;</p>
<p>To back up his complaint, Mr Colgan referred to two statistical surveys carried out two decades apart by the Jesuit sociologist and academic Fr Michael MacGreil, entitled: &#8216;Prejudice and Tolerance in Ireland&#8217; and &#8216;Prejudice in Ireland Revisited&#8217; which Mr Colgan claims showed &#8220;marked prejudice by Roman Catholics and other Christian denominations against agnostics and atheists&#8221; (humanist was not an option offered to respondents in either survey).</p>
<p>In his complaint, Mr Colgan said he attributed this prejudice to &#8220;hostile propaganda disseminated in school and chapel in the main by or for the institutional churches, for there is no rational or temporal reason&#8221;. In a statement to the Sunday Independent, Martin Long of the Catholic Communications office said: &#8220;Bishop Boyce&#8217;s homily &#8216;To Trust in God&#8217; is available for anyone to read at catholicbishops.ie.</p>
<p>&#8220;I advise any person to read it and judge it for themselves. It is clearly a reasonable, balanced, honest &#8212; and indeed self-critical from a church perspective &#8212; analysis of the value of the Catholic faith. Bishop Boyce is a good and holy man and much loved by those who know him.&#8221;</p>
<p>After the homily was delivered late last summer, Mr Colgan wrote personally to the cleric seeking a corrective statement.</p>
<p>Dr Boyce responded saying that in his homily he did &#8220;not wish to disparage in any way the sincere efforts of those with no religious beliefs, atheists, humanists etc.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have too much respect for each human person, since I believe all are created in the image of God. At Knock I wished to encourage and confirm the hope of believers, even in the present challenging times, since trust in God was the theme I was given.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have not heard a single Protestant Christian Organization come out publicly and tell the government that they will not comply with this new regulation which forces Christians to deny their faith! What is up with that? An interesting commentary on this article can be found here: The Entire Sad Contraception Issue Explained Also read here [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6984&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not heard a single Protestant Christian Organization come out publicly and tell the government that they will not comply with this new regulation which forces Christians to deny their faith! What is up with that?</p>
<p>An interesting commentary on this article can be found here: <a href="http://www.barnhardt.biz/" target="_blank">The Entire Sad Contraception Issue Explained</a></p>
<p>Also read here about how the <a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/japanese-population-shrink-one-third-size-workforce-plunge-under-50-years" target="_blank">Japanese population is going to drop by one third in the next fifty</a> years due to their love affair with contraceptives and abortions:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/we-will-not-comply-catholic-leaders-distribute-letter-slamming-obama-admin-contraceptive-mandate/" target="_blank">from The Blaze:</a></strong></p>
<p>We’ve covered the Catholic Church’s ongoing battle with the Obama administration over contraception health care mandates for quite some time. Over the weekend, though, the stand-off took an unusual turn, as Catholic churches across America read a letter to congregants that perfectly encapsulated the church’s stance against the impending federal requirements.</p>
<p>The Church’s vocal arguments against the Obama administration are centered upon a Health and Human Services Department requirement that employers must include contraception and abortion-inducing drugs in health-care coverage. While this requirement doesn’t apply to houses of worship, it will force Catholic colleges, hospitals and other Christian groups to provide these drugs despite their faith-based opposition to them.</p>
<p>Over the weekend, the Catholic Church’s letter went beyond simply issuing oppositional rhetoric to media. Instead, priests read an open note to congregations across the country, dubbing the administration‘s take on women’s health and religious violations as an attack on their faith. In the letter, Bishops highlighted what they called “an alarming and serious matter,“ as their words contended that the federal government has ”dealt a heavy blow” to the Catholic population.</p>
<p>In it, Catholic leaders went on to say that the Church “cannot—we will not—comply with this unjust law,” as it violates the Catholic conscience. Additionally, the church says that it is faced with a difficult decision — either comply and violate its faith or drop coverage for employees and suffer the consequences. The letter urges congregants to take action and to call Congress in an attempt to overturn the regulation.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[from Yahoo News: A controversy is brewing over three reputable Christian organizations, which are based in North America, whose efforts have ousted the words &#8220;Father&#8221; and &#8220;Son&#8221; from new Bibles. Wycliffe Bible Translators, Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL) and Frontiers are under fire for &#8220;producing Bibles that remove &#8220;Father,&#8221; &#8220;Son&#8221; and &#8220;Son of God&#8221; because [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6980&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/father-son-ousted-trinity-bible-translations-003300519.html" target="_blank">from Yahoo News:</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>A controversy is brewing over three reputable Christian organizations, which are based in North America, whose efforts have ousted the words &#8220;Father&#8221; and &#8220;Son&#8221; from new Bibles. <span style="color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline;">Wycliffe Bible Translators</span>,<span style="color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline;"> Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL)</span> and<span style="color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline;"> Frontiers</span> are under fire for <span style="color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline;">&#8220;producing Bibles that remove &#8220;Father,&#8221; &#8220;Son&#8221; and &#8220;Son of God&#8221; because these terms are offensive to Muslims.&#8221;</span></strong></p>
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<p id="yui_3_3_0_20_1327941647370225">Concerned Christian missionaries, Bible translators, pastors, and national church leaders have come together with a public petition to stop these organizations. <strong>They claim a public petition is their last recourse because meetings with these organizations&#8217; leaders, staff resignations over this issue and criticism and appeals from native national Christians concerned about the translations <span style="text-decoration:underline;">&#8220;have failed to persuade these agencies to retain &#8220;Father&#8221; and &#8220;Son&#8221; in the text</span> of all their translations.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p id="yui_3_3_0_20_1327941647370327">Biblical Missiology, a ministry of Boulder, Colorado-based Horizon International, is sponsoring the petition.</p>
<p id="yui_3_3_0_20_1327941647370227">The main issues of this controversy surround new Arabic and Turkish translations. Here are three examples native speakers give:</p>
<p id="yui_3_3_0_20_1327941647370331">First, Wycliffe and SIL have produced Stories of the Prophets, an Arabic Bible that uses an Arabic equivalent of &#8220;Lord&#8221; instead of &#8220;Father&#8221; and &#8220;Messiah&#8221; instead of &#8220;Son.&#8221;</p>
<p id="yui_3_3_0_20_1327941647370334">Second, Frontiers and SIL have produced Meaning of the Gospel of Christ , an Arabic translation which removes &#8220;Father&#8221; in reference to God and replaces it with &#8220;Allah,&#8221; and removes or redefines &#8220;Son.&#8221; For example, the verse which Christians use to justify going all over the world to make disciples, thus fulfilling the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19) reads, &#8220;Cleanse them by water in the name of Allah, his Messiah and his Holy Spirit&#8221; instead of &#8220;baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.&#8221; Rev. <strong>Bassam Madany, an Arab American who runs Middle East Resources, terms these organization&#8217;s efforts as &#8220;a western imperialistic attempt that&#8217;s inspired by cultural anthropology, and not by biblical theology.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p id="yui_3_3_0_20_1327941647370229">Third, Frontiers and SIL have produced a new Turkish translation of the Gospel of Matthew that uses Turkish equivalents of &#8220;guardian&#8221; for &#8220;Father&#8221; and &#8220;representative&#8221; or &#8220;proxy&#8221; for &#8220;Son.&#8221; To Turkish church leader Rev. Fikret Böcek, &#8220;This translation is &#8216;an all-American idea&#8217; with absolutely no respect for the &#8216;sacredness&#8217; of Scripture, or even of the growing Turkish church.&#8221;</p>
<p id="yui_3_3_0_20_1327941647370223">SIL has issued a public response stating &#8220;all personnel subscribe to a statement of faith which affirms the Trinity, Christ&#8217;s deity, and the inspiration of Scripture.&#8221; However, in the same statement, which is similar to Wycliffe&#8217;s, it claims &#8220;word-for-word translation of these titles would communicate an incorrect meaning (i.e. that God had physical, sexual relationships with Mary) [sic],&#8221; thus justifying substituting &#8220;Father&#8221; and &#8220;Son&#8221; in new translations. Calls and emails to Wycliffe and SIL to clarify their positions were not returned. Frontiers responded to calls with articles that critics have already dismissed as skirting omissions of &#8220;Father&#8221; and &#8220;Son&#8221; in new Bible translations.</p>
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		<title>T.D. Jakes Once Again Spouts Ambiguous Theology</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here you see T.D. Jakes once again &#8220;waffle&#8221; on his beliefs or worse yet attempts to DE-EMPHASIZE the difference between &#8220;Oneness&#8221;, Modalism and Trinitarian beliefs. He has done this in the past on other foundational Christian doctrinal beliefs as well. He then goes on to tout the new Anti-Christ ideology of &#8220;inclusiveness&#8221;. Where people should not separate from [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6973&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you see T.D. Jakes once again &#8220;waffle&#8221; on his beliefs or worse yet attempts to DE-EMPHASIZE the difference between &#8220;Oneness&#8221;, Modalism and Trinitarian beliefs. He has done this in the past on other foundational Christian doctrinal beliefs as well.</p>
<p>He then goes on to tout the new Anti-Christ ideology of &#8220;inclusiveness&#8221;. Where people should not separate from one another because of differences in foundational doctrinal matters.</p>
<p>It is not hard to see where all of this is going, and where &#8220;Oneness&#8221; and &#8220;Modalsim&#8221; takes us. The next step, and what you are seeing more and more in so called Christians circles goes along the lines of: &#8220;Well we Christians worship ONE God manifested in three modes, or One God appearing at different times in different forms, so that is not THAT different from Muslims who believe in ONE god, or Hindu&#8217;s who believe in ONE god manifested in multiple &#8220;avatars&#8221;</p>
<p>What is further troubling is how he uses a verse out of context to imply that the nature of God is a mystery, therefore its ok if you have Oneness, Modalist or Trinitarian beliefs! The passage in no way implies any kind of nature of the Godhead nor was it intended to!</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/td-jakes-breaks-down-the-trinity-addresses-being-called-a-heretic-67972/" target="_blank">from The &#8220;Christian Post&#8221;:</a></strong></p>
<p>Bishop T.D. Jakes, pastor of The Potter&#8217;s House megachurch in Dallas, Texas, was put on the spot during a theological roundtable Wednesday in regards to his beliefs about the Godhead and why, in some Christian circles, he is considered a &#8220;heretic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jakes and of a handful of other male Christian leaders were invited to participate in this year&#8217;s &#8220;The Elephant Room&#8221; roundtable, hosted and moderated by Pastors James MacDonald and Mark Driscoll. The Dallas pastor was hit with several questions about how his theological beliefs have developed, specifically in regard to the Holy Trinity – a controversial issue which The Christian Post reported on in October.</p>
<p>The Potter&#8217;s House senior pastor denied that he clings to a modalist position, although he confessed that he did at one time in his walk with God.</p>
<p>Modalism, a 3rd-century teaching accredited to theologian Sabellius, purports that the members of the Trinity are not three distinct, eternally co-existing persons, but that instead God, a singular spirit, discloses Himself at different times in three modes – a doctrine espoused by Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal and United Pentecostal Church International denominations.</p>
<p>During Wednesday&#8217;s &#8220;Elephant Room&#8221; conversation on the &#8220;majors&#8221; of Christian doctrine, Jakes explained where he falls on the issue.</p>
<p>&#8220;My father was a Methodist and my mother was a Baptist,&#8221; he explained. &#8220;I was raised in the Baptist church &#8230; but I didn&#8217;t really have a real committed experience with Christ until my father died. When my father died, I had a real experience with Christ, a real conversion with Christ and I had it in a Oneness church.&#8221;</p>
<p>The minister emphasized to Driscoll that the Pentecostal congregation he was referencing, which he pointed out was not a UPCI church, was home to &#8220;Christians who believe in Jesus Christ, believe he died, rose from the dead, is coming back again — all the same things you do.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;How they describe and explain the Godhead in a traditional Oneness sense is very different than how traditional Trinitarians describe the Gospel. I was in that church for a number of years and raised in that church for a number of years,&#8221; Jakes said.</p>
<p>&#8220;As I began to progress, I began to understand that some of the dogma that I was taught in the Oneness movement was very dogmatic, very narrow and not the very best description of how I now understand the Godhead,&#8221; he continued.</p>
<p>&#8220;My struggle as I was ordained in the Oneness church was in several passages – sometimes the doctrine fit, sometimes it doesn&#8217;t. When the doctrine becomes the primary thing, you force it into fitting in places where it doesn&#8217;t fit. I really at this point in my life don&#8217;t want to force my theology to fit in my denomination.&#8221;</p>
<p>Referencing Gen. 1:26, Luke 3:21-22, John 14:11 and other passages that he believes point to Jesus, God the Father and the Holy Spirit as having unique distinctions, Jakes revealed: &#8220;That began to make me re-think some of my ideas and some of the things I was taught.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I got kind of quiet about it for a while. When you&#8217;re a leader and you&#8217;re in a position of authority sometimes you have to back up &#8230; for a minute and really think those things through.&#8221;</p>
<p>Driscoll, near the end of the discussion, pointedly asked Jakes if he believes the Bible is &#8220;the perfect, inspired, final authority Word of God,&#8221; to which Jakes responded &#8220;absolutely.&#8221;</p>
<p>Driscoll then posed several other creedal questions in quick succession, to which Jakes responded in the affirmative:</p>
<p>&#8220;You believe there is one God, three persons: Father, Son and Spirit? You believe Jesus was fully God, fully man?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You believe he died on the cross in our place, for our sins?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You believe he bodily rose from death?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You believe that he is the judge of the living and the dead?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You believe that apart from Jesus there&#8217;s no salvation?&#8221;</p>
<p>Jakes told Driscoll once more that &#8220;there is very little difference between what I believe and what you believe.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;For you, the issue between Trinitarianism and modalism at its essence is one God manifesting Himself successively in three ways, or one God, three persons, simultaneously existing eternally. Your best understanding now &#8230; would you say it&#8217;s &#8216;one God manifesting Himself in three ways&#8217; or &#8216;one God in three persons?&#8217;&#8221; Driscoll asked.</p>
<p><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">&#8220;I believe that neither one of them totally get it for me,&#8221; Jakes revealed</span>,</strong></span> yet expressing his agreement with the description of &#8220;one God, three persons.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Here is why I am there. I am not crazy about the word &#8216;persons&#8217; &#8230; most people who know me know that &#8230; <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline;">my doctrinal statement is really no different from yours except for the word &#8216;manifest&#8217; instead of &#8216;person</span></span></strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline;">,&#8217;</span></span> which you describe as modalist and I describe as Pauline,&#8221; Jakes insisted, before quoting 1 Timothy 3:16.</p>
<p>The passage in the English Standard Version reads: <em>&#8220;Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><strong>&#8220;That is what Paul describes as a &#8216;mystery&#8217; and I don&#8217;t think we should do that,&#8221; the bishop said. &#8220;Now, Paul is not a modalist, but he does not think it is robbery to the divinity of God to say God was &#8216;manifest&#8217; in the flesh,&#8221; Jakes argued.</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;When we start talking about that sort of thing, I think that it is important that we realize that there are distinctives between the Father and the working of the Son: the Father didn&#8217;t bleed, the Father didn&#8217;t die, only in the person of Jesus Christ, coming back for us in the person of Jesus Christ &#8230; Jesus Christ has been with us, but only indwelt in the person of the Holy Spirit. We are baptized into the Body of Christ by the power of the Holy Spirit. That is consistent with my belief system.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>He added, &#8220;We are taught in our society that if we disagree within a movement, we leave &#8230; we sever. I still have fellowship associations, relationships and positions within and without Oneness and Trinitarian movements because I believe that until we bridge the gap between our thinking, and humble both sides <span style="color:#ff0000;">and say &#8216;we&#8217;re both attempting to describe a God we love, that we serve and that we have not seen, and that we are viewing Him through the context of the Scriptures but that with a glass darkly&#8217;</span></strong> – why should I fall out and hate and throw names at you when all that I know and understand, be it very Orthodox, is still through a glass darkly?&#8221; . . . . . .</p>
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		<title>Obama threatens religious liberty</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is artilce is revealing a coming decision point for Churches that operate under a 501C3 non-profit status, or for that matter ANY Bricks and Mortar church that operates as a formal going concern. Will a Church accept allegiance to the State, even when that allegiance requires them to deny their faith, or will a Church disband? If history is [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6970&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is artilce is revealing a coming decision point for Churches that operate under a 501C3 non-profit status, or for that matter ANY Bricks and Mortar church that operates as a formal going concern. Will a Church accept allegiance to the State, even when that allegiance requires them to deny their faith, or will a Church disband? If history is any indicator, the vast majority of churches will rationalize away the requirements for allegiance to the State over their faith, and only a very small minority will dissolve their formal structures and cling to their faith!</p>
<p>And this small minority will not only be persecuted by the state, but they will also be persecuted by those Churches that have chosen to put their allegiance to the state over their allegiance to God.</p>
<p>A classic fairly recent example is Nazi Germany during WWII. The Nazi government required ALL Churches,Seminary&#8217;s and Ministers to swear loyalty to the National Socialist Government or be faced with being dissolved by the government or ministers being defrocked and prohibited from being a minister.</p>
<p>Read Dietrich Bonhoeffer&#8217;s &#8220;<em>The Cost of Discipleship</em>&#8220;</p>
<p>Just for Clarity: I do not endorse the Roman Catholic Church  by posting this article. Nor do I endorse the Theology of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. The Roman Catholic Church is an apostate church that practices idolatry, however what this article is saying has a much broader impact upon the religious freedom of all those denominations and individual believers that identify themselves as Christian.</p>
<p>And likewise Dietrich Bonhoeffer had many questionable beliefs, but again what happened to churches and individuals that identified themselves as Christian in Nazi Germany and occupied Europe during WWII is a good case study and &#8220;Type&#8221; of will happen to Christians in the latter days who will be forced to either deny their faith or not be allowed to openly practice their faith!</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-government/no-obama-in-court-1318908.html?cxtype=rss_news_81963" target="_blank">from The Washington Times:</a></strong></p>
<p>Like many leftists, President Obama has deep contempt for Christianity and democracy. This is why his administration has declared war on the Catholic Church and religious liberty.</p>
<p>Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius recently went ahead and approved last year’s decision to mandate that many religious organizations provide health insurance plans to their employees that include contraception, abortion-inducing drugs and sterilization coverage &#8211; and this must be done without charging a co-pay. In other words, Mr. Obama has done something that is ominous and unprecedented: compelling religious groups to embrace and subsidize free birth control. Catholic universities, hospitals and charities must either betray their fundamental social teachings or drop insurance coverage for their employees, thereby triggering massive financial penalties under Obamacare. The choice is simple: Abandon Catholic doctrine or go out of business.</p>
<p>The ruling will not simply devastate the Catholic heath care system and elaborate social network, which includes soup kitchens, adoption centers, immigrant services and parochial schools. It directly assaults and violates the conscience rights of Catholics. The church teaches that contraception is a sin, an immoral attempt to obstruct God’s will of when and whether human life should be created. It is the ultimate embodiment of pride: man trying to act as God. That is why opposition to birth control is at the heart of the Catholic faith.</p>
<p>The church teaches that the primary purpose of sexual activity within the sacred bonds of marriage is procreation &#8211; to perpetuate humanity from one generation to the next. For nearly 1,500 years, such thinking underpinned the Christian West. That was then; this is now. Since the 1960s, modern society is obsessed with contraception, abortion and sexual hedonism. The results have been declining birth rates and shrinking native populations. Literally, the West is dying. As the late Pope John Paul II put it, we are in the grips of “a culture of death.” Birth control is a key pillar. It is a seminal aspect of the socialist drive to establish a secular utopia &#8211; smash the traditional family by relentlessly advancing the sexual revolution. The pill and the condom are the hammer and sickle of cultural Marxism. Decades ago, the Vatican warned that birth control eventually would lead to the West’s demise. A civilization unable &#8211; and unwilling &#8211; to reproduce itself is doomed. . . . . .</p>
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		<title>UK Bioethicist: Pregnancy and Natural Birth are &#8220;Unethical&#8221; and Should Not Be Tolerated</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the type of perverse thinking that begins to prevail when a society has went over the edge (pun intended) in its willful flight from God! The more and more I see today, makes me believe that western society at large because of its disobedience towards God has been given a strong delusion! 2 [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6968&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the type of perverse thinking that begins to prevail when a society has went over the edge (pun intended) in its willful flight from God! The more and more I see today, makes me believe that western society at large because of its disobedience towards God has been given a strong delusion!</p>
<p>2 Thessalonians 2:9-12:</p>
<p><strong><em>&#8220;The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,  and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.&#8221;</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.bioedge.org/index.php/bioethics/bioethics_article/9897" target="_blank">From Bioedge:</a></strong></p>
<p><em>Pregnancy and childbirth are so painful, risky and socially restrictive for women that public funding should urgently be directed to the development of artificial wombs. This is the only way to achieve true equality between men and women for then neither women nor men would then be limited by having children and the burdens of reproducing the species would be shared equally.</em></p>
<p><em>This is the radical suggestion made by a leading British bioethicist, Anna Smajdor, of the University of East Anglia.</em></p>
<p><em>Artificial gestation, or ectogenesis,  is currently science fiction, but it may be possible. Dr Smajdor believes that in a truly liberal society pregnancy and childbirth should not be tolerated:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>Changes to financial and social structures may improve things marginally, but a better solution needs to be found. Either we view women as baby carriers who must subjugate their other interests to the well-being of their children or we acknowledge that our social values and level of medical expertise are no longer compatible with “natural” reproduction.…</p>
<p>I suggest that there is a strong case for prioritizing research into ectogenesis as an alternative to pregnancy. I conclude by asking the reader the following: if you did not know whether you would be a man or a woman, would you prefer to be born into Society A, in which women bear all the burdens and risks of pregnancy, or Society B, in which ectogenesis has been perfected.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Britain OKs television ads for abortion clinics</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[from Earthlink: Britain&#8217;s broadcast advertising body has given the go-ahead for private abortion clinics to advertise their services on television, angering those who say that the move desensitizes the public to the practice. The Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice said late Friday there was no justification for barring private clinics that offer post-pregnancy services, including [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6966&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20120121/a92fc86d-30c1-4f7a-9d3c-792ff4cd7e0b" target="_blank">from Earthlink:</a></strong></p>
<p>Britain&#8217;s broadcast advertising body has given the go-ahead for private abortion clinics to advertise their services on television, angering those who say that the move desensitizes the public to the practice.</p>
<p>The Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice said late Friday there was no justification for barring private clinics that offer post-pregnancy services, including abortions, from advertising on television. Nonprofit post-pregnancy services are already allowed to advertise on television, and their for-profit counterparts are allowed to advertise in all other media.</p>
<p>The organization&#8217;s spokesman, Matt Wilson, said that &#8220;there is not going to be some sort of free-for-all saying: &#8216;Come to us to get an abortion.&#8217; They are not there to promote abortion, they have to promote an array of services.&#8221;</p>
<p>Speaking to Britain&#8217;s right-leaning Daily Mail, Conservative lawmaker Nadine Dories said the move would allow broadcasters to make a profit &#8220;through advertising revenue off the back of a service which ends life. It&#8217;s appalling.&#8221;</p>
<p>British law allows abortion up to the 24th week of pregnancy, so long as two doctors agree that the procedure would cause less harm to a woman&#8217;s physical or mental health than carrying the fetus to term. There is no time limit in cases which pose a serious risk to the life of the mother.</p>
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