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		<title>Video surfaces of White wrapped in Torah scroll by Eddie Long&#8217;s &#8216;rabbi&#8217;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another apostate self promoter caught in a lie! from The Florida Courier: FROM THE FLORIDA COURIER STAFF: An Orlando-area rabbi, upset that Florida-based televangelist Paula White strongly denied participating in “scroll-wrapping” considered “repulsive and inappropriate”by some Jewish religious scholars, submitted a video that seemingly corroborates that such an act did occur. The video surfaced just [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=7009&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="http://www.flcourier.com/flflorida/7587-another-paula-white-update-video-surfaces-of-white-wrapped-in-torah-scroll-by-eddie-longs-rabbi" target="_blank">from The Florida Courier:</a></strong></p>
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<p>FROM THE FLORIDA COURIER STAFF: An Orlando-area rabbi, upset that Florida-based televangelist Paula White strongly denied participating in “scroll-wrapping” considered “repulsive and inappropriate”by some Jewish religious scholars, submitted a video that seemingly corroborates that such an act did occur. The video surfaced just hours after White’s attorney categorically and unconditionally denied, to the Florida Courier&#8217;s publisher, White’s involvement in any such act.</p>
<p>White&#8217;s &#8216;wrapping&#8217; – allegedly symbolic of being “wrapped in the Word of God,” according to  Rabbi Ralph Messer on the video – is almost identical to Messer’s wrapping of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church&#8217;s Rev. Eddie Long during a controversial, widely ridiculed ceremony that went viral on YouTube.</p>
<p>Criticism of Long was swift and severe from Jewish religious scholars and the Anti-Defamation League, forcing Long to publicly apologize.</p>
<p>White is now pastor of New Destiny Christian Center, founded by the late Zachery Tims. New Destiny is one of Central Florida’s largest churches. She is also pastor of Without Walls International Church, one of Tampa’s largest churches.</p>
<p><strong>How it all started</strong></p>
<p>On Friday afternoon, Feb. 3, the West Orlando News Online reported &#8220;rumors that Messer will be in Orlando over the weekend to crown pastor Paula White, new leader of the New Destiny Christian Center (NDCC), queen.&#8221;</p>
<p>At 6 p.m. that Friday evening – just after the Florida Courier broke a story on the Internet addressing rumors of White’s possible ‘coronation’ – Messer became the focus of discussion on Orlando’s WEUS-AM 810, a local talk radio station.</p>
<p>Host Don Miller of “The Don Miller Show” harshly criticized both Long and Messer. One of the featured guests on the show was  Rabbi Ira Michaelson of the Beth Tefillah congregation in Clermont, just outside of Orlando.</p>
<p>About 10 minutes into the broadcast, Miller confirmed that he heard rumors that Messer was coming to Orlando “to do this” (another Eddie Long-style ‘coronation’) at another church.”</p>
<p>In response, Michaelson said, “He actually already did this to Paula White some years ago&#8230;this was after she was divorced from Randy White and before the scandal with Benny Hinn came out. He took her and wrapped her in a scroll and said the same thing &#8211; ‘I’m wrapping you in the Word of God.’”</p>
<p>For the remainder of the hour-long show, Miller and Michaelson continued to castigate Messer and Long. Keith Johnson, a minister, author, and former NFL Minnesota Vikings chaplain, spoke of his concern about Long’s New Birth congregation and the impact of Messer’s actions on the relationship between Black Christians and Jews.</p>
<p>(On Sunday, February 5, Johnson preached at an Orlando-area church about how Messer convinced Long’s New Birth congregation “to pronounce a curse on themselves. <a href="http://youtu.be/nMvVhcObQrc">Click here for video.</a>)</p>
<p>The Rev. Dr. Wil Gafney, an associate professor of Hebrew and Old Testament at The Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia, spoke to Miller’s show by phone about how the New Birth ceremony was disrespectful of Jewish religious traditions.</p>
<p><strong>Saturday morning call</strong></p>
<p>In multiple phone calls and emails to Florida Courier Publisher Charles W. Cherry II, Daniel Beirute, Paula White’s attorney, unconditionally denied that White would be &#8216;coronated&#8217; as was Long.</p>
<p>In response to Michealson’s quoted allegation that “He (Messer) actually already did this to Paula White some years ago&#8230;&#8221;, Beirute wrote in an email to Cherry as follows:</p>
<p>“I don’t know where Rabbi Michaelson gets his information, but my client categorically and unequivocally denies that that ever happened.”</p>
<p><strong>No longer a story</strong></p>
<p>Based on White’s unconditional denial of the Super Bowl ceremony, Florida Courier editors decided that there was no longer a story and posted a “Final Paul White update with links.” But that was not to be the last word.</p>
<p>Rabbi Michaelson, concerned that White’s denial damaged his reputation, emailed a video to Cherry that seems to corroborate his statement about White.</p>
<p>The video opens up with various instances in which an energetic White picks up or drops Bibles on the floor while preaching. About 36 seconds into the video, a caption appears: “Notice Bible on Floor.” There’s more video of White preaching, speaking ‘in tongues’, and dropping more Bibles.</p>
<p>About two minutes into the video, another caption appears. “If Paula had thrown the Koran to the floor, she would have faced certain death. The Jews rejected her from speaking at their 2007 “day of prayer” (sic) because of the following sacrilege to their sacred scrolls,&#8221; it states.</p>
<p>Then, in an undated broadcast that seems to be recorded from White’s TV show “Paula,” White agrees to allow Messer and another unidentified man to wrap White in what appears to be a Torah scroll. After saying the wrapping represents protection and being “hidden in the Word of God,” Messer tells White, “Out of something that was thrown off the tracks &#8211; like your life &#8211; God says, &#8216;I’m going to raise it up and people will read from it and quote it for generations.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Messer then says to White, “&#8230;The Lord says, ‘You are so sacred to the Body of Christ, I’m wrapping you in the Word of God.’&#8221; The scroll seemed to be torn in the process. White appears to be overcome with emotion, then happily shakes Messer’s hand.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtu.be/aSWih7tBze8" target="_blank">Paula White ‘wrapped in the Word of God&#8217; – click here</a> for an abbreviated version posted on YouTube of the video submitted to the Florida Courier.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;Bishop&#8221; Eddie Long&#8217;s New Birth ceremony with Torah disrespectful, Jewish leaders say</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you drop off the cliff into the depts of depravity and abject apostasy as Mr. Long has nothing is surprising anymore, except for the fact that ANYONE actually attends a &#8220;church&#8221; that he leads! from The Atlanta Journal and Constitution: &#8220;Bishop&#8221; Long Crowned King! A ceremony held Sunday at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, in which [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=7005&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you drop off the cliff into the depts of depravity and abject apostasy as Mr. Long has nothing is surprising anymore, except for the fact that ANYONE actually attends a &#8220;church&#8221; that he leads!</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/new-birth-ceremony-with-1328502.html" target="_blank">from The Atlanta Journal and Constitution:</a></strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Bishop&#8221; Long Crowned King!</p>
<p>A ceremony held Sunday at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, in which Bishop Eddie Long was wrapped in a sacred Torah scroll and carried upon a throne, has the Internet abuzz and Jewish religious leaders offended and questioning its appropriateness.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s a king. God has blessed him,&#8221; said Rabbi Ralph Messer before covering Long in a scroll &#8220;[that] may still have the dust of Auschwitz and Birkenau.&#8221; Messer referred to the Nazi extermination camps in Poland where millions of Jews were murdered during the Holocaust.</p>
<p>A Torah&#8217;s use in a ceremony ordaining Long as &#8220;a king&#8221; is  offensive to many Jews, said Bill Nigut, Southeast Regional Director of  the Anti-Defamation League.</p>
<p>The ceremony at Long&#8217;s Lithonia church, viewed more than 139,000 times on YouTube, &#8220;in no way represents any Jewish ritual that I&#8217;m familiar with,&#8221; Nigut said. &#8220;We do not proclaim individuals to be kings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Messer said his parchment, a handwritten copy of the holiest book within Judaism, was 312 years old. His mention of Auschwitz-Birkenau implied the scroll was one of those recovered from the death camps when they were liberated by the Allies toward the end of World War II.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to authenticate Messer&#8217;s claim without examining the texts up close, said Rabbi Joshua Heller of Congregation B&#8217;nai Torah in Sandy Springs. While rare, Torahs can be easily purchased, even on eBay, he said.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are a fair number of Torah scrolls that survived the war,&#8221; said Heller, adding roughly 1,500 were rescued from Czechoslovakia alone.</p>
<p>More disturbing was the use of this particular Torah in an inappropriate setting, experts on religion say.</p>
<p>“The connection of the Torah scroll to the Holocaust and then to Eddie Long is incomprehensible to me,” said David P. Gushee, a professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University. Gushee is a scholar of the Holocaust and has visited Auschwitz several times.</p>
<p>“What was the point? Was it to signal that Eddie Long was suffering persecution like the Jews at Auschwitz?” Gushee asked.</p>
<p>Messer&#8217;s son, Minister Russell Messer of Simchat Torah Beit Midrash in Parker, Colo., said his father purchased the parchment and relied on the word of its seller regarding its provenance. &#8220;It came through that generation of Europe,&#8221; the younger Messer said.</p>
<p>Russell Messer said that in the next two days, his father &#8212; who has no formal rabbinical training &#8212; plans to post on his organization&#8217;s <strong><a href="http://www.torah.tv/">website</a></strong> the full video of his sermon along with additional comments regarding Sunday&#8217;s service.</p>
<p>When asked for comment about the event, New Birth emailed a statement Thursday in which Ralph Messer said critics misunderstood his intent.</p>
<p>&#8220;My message was about restoring a man and to encourage his walk in the Lord,&#8221; Messer said. &#8220;It was not to make Bishop Eddie L. Long a king.&#8221;</p>
<p>The YouTube video indicates otherwise, Heller told the AJC.</p>
<p>&#8220;We wouldn&#8217;t wrap a Jewish person in a Torah scroll and declare him king,&#8221; he said. &#8220;As a Jew, I find that use of symbols very off-putting.&#8221;</p>
<p>The messenger is as controversial as the message, Jewish leaders say.</p>
<p>Ralph Messer, according to a biography on his organization&#8217;s website, is &#8220;pioneering a work to bring the ‘Good News&#8217; of Yeshua (Jesus Christ) in the Torah to the ends of the Earth.&#8221; He is active in the Messianic Judaism movement, which fuses evangelical Christian beliefs with elements of Jewish tradition.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Jewish community does not associate itself with the Messianic congregations,&#8221; Heller said. &#8220;We don&#8217;t feel like this does due justice to either the Jewish or Christian community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Messer&#8217;s biography says he has ties with prominent evangelicals including the Rev. Kenneth Copeland of Lubbock, Texas, and Paula White, pastor of a charismatic mega-church based in Florida. It says he has made frequent appearances on the Trinity Broadcasting Network.</p>
<p>In his statement Thursday, Ralph Messer said Sunday&#8217;s presentation &#8220;was simply a way of bringing  honor to a man who had given his life to the Lord and had given so much  to his church, the Atlanta metro area and throughout the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Lifting him on the chair was to acknowledge and honor him,&#8221; he said, adding it is consistent with rituals performed at Jewish weddings and Bar mitzvahs.</p>
<p>One worshipper present at the service said it was &#8220;so much more than the video.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;If you actually attended the service you would know that Bishop Long was not ordained or considered a king in the worldly sense,&#8221; said New Birth member De&#8217;Yolanda Lowery. &#8220;I do know that Bishop Long is truly a man of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Russell Messer said that his father and Long &#8220;just got to know each other in the last six months.&#8221;</p>
<p>Long was appointed New Birth&#8217;s pastor in 1987 when the church had only 300 members. By its 10th anniversary, New Birth reported a membership of roughly 18,000, peaking at 25,000.</p>
<p>But in September 2010, Long was sued by four former church members who  alleged he used his influence, trips, gifts and jobs to coerce  them into sexual relationships. The suit was settled in May. The church&#8217;s attendance has declined since the sexual coercion lawsuit was filed.</p>
<p>The bishop may have taken comfort in Messer&#8217;s message.</p>
<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t attack [Long],&#8221; Messer said Sunday. &#8220;He&#8217;s sealed. Wherever he turns, the power of God is there. &#8230; It&#8217;s not him, it&#8217;s the king in him.&#8221;</p>
<p>As Long sat behind him, perched on a throne under a spotlight, Messer chanted repeatedly, &#8220;It&#8217;s a new birth,&#8221; eliciting cheers from the congregation.</p>
<p>Mercer&#8217;s Gushee said the  service  may have been an attempt to shore up Long&#8217;s standing in his ministry.</p>
<p>“A lot of things could have been done to shore that up, but this  particularly bizarre ritual was deeply disturbing,” Gushee said. “One  problem with Messianic Judaism, in which leaders attempt to fuse Jewish  and Christian traditions and symbols, is that it can easily stray into  profound insensitivity.”</p>
<p>Jamal-Dominique Hopkins, associate professor of Biblical studies at  Interdenominational Theological Center, said that on viewing the video, “My first impression was, ‘Who is this individual who has the authority to make Bishop Long a king?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s something I’ve never seen or read within the  Judeo-Christian tradition,&#8221; Hopkins said. &#8220;There’s nothing within Scripture that  supports such a practice of this ceremony. It really just stands outside  of the Christian faith.&#8221;</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ireland for centuries has been &#8220;made merchandise&#8221; by the Roman Catholic Church, and now Ireland is turning on that same &#8220;church&#8221;</p>
<p>Revelation 18:4-7:</p>
<p><strong><em>And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. <sup> </sup>For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. <sup> </sup>Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. <sup> </sup>In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ </em></strong></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.independent.ie/national-news/bishop-accused-of-incitement-to-hatred-in-homily-3003057.html" target="_blank">from Independent Ireland:</a></strong></p>
<p>A HOMILY delivered at Knock shrine by the Bishop of Raphoe, Philip Boyce, is being investigated by the Director of Public Prosecutions following a formal complaint by a leading humanist who claims the sermon was an incitement to hatred.</p>
<p> The gardai have confirmed to former Fine Gael election candidate John Colgan that they have prepared and forwarded a file to the DPP after he made allegations that the address by Dr Boyce was in breach of the Prohibition of Incitement to Hatred Act, 1989.</p>
<p>The homily, entitled: &#8220;To Trust in God&#8221; was delivered to worshippers during a novena at the Marian shrine in Co Mayo last August and subsequently reported in the media, including The Irish Times, under the headline: &#8220;&#8216;Godless culture&#8217; attacking church, says bishop.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Colgan, a retired chartered engineer and economist from Leixlip, Co Kildare, referred in his formal complaint to two key passages in Dr Boyce&#8217;s homily which he believes broke the law.</p>
<p>One of the passages referred to the Catholic Church in Ireland being &#8220;attacked from outside by the arrows of a secular and godless culture&#8221;.</p>
<p>A second passage, which was included in the complaint, stated: &#8220;For the distinguishing mark of Christian believers is the fact they have a future; it is not that they know all the details that await them, but they know in general terms that their life will not end in emptiness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr Colgan, who was a leader in the &#8216;Campaign to Separate Church and State&#8217; in the late 1990s, said in his complaint: &#8220;I believe statements of this kind are an incitement to hatred of dissidents, outsiders, secularists, within the meaning of the [Incitement to Hatred] Act, who are perfectly good citizens within the meaning of the civil law. The statements exemplify the chronic antipathy towards secularists, humanists etc, which has manifested itself in the ostracising of otherwise perfectly good Irish citizens, who do not share the aims of the Vatican&#8217;s Irish Mission Church.&#8221;</p>
<p>To back up his complaint, Mr Colgan referred to two statistical surveys carried out two decades apart by the Jesuit sociologist and academic Fr Michael MacGreil, entitled: &#8216;Prejudice and Tolerance in Ireland&#8217; and &#8216;Prejudice in Ireland Revisited&#8217; which Mr Colgan claims showed &#8220;marked prejudice by Roman Catholics and other Christian denominations against agnostics and atheists&#8221; (humanist was not an option offered to respondents in either survey).</p>
<p>In his complaint, Mr Colgan said he attributed this prejudice to &#8220;hostile propaganda disseminated in school and chapel in the main by or for the institutional churches, for there is no rational or temporal reason&#8221;. In a statement to the Sunday Independent, Martin Long of the Catholic Communications office said: &#8220;Bishop Boyce&#8217;s homily &#8216;To Trust in God&#8217; is available for anyone to read at catholicbishops.ie.</p>
<p>&#8220;I advise any person to read it and judge it for themselves. It is clearly a reasonable, balanced, honest &#8212; and indeed self-critical from a church perspective &#8212; analysis of the value of the Catholic faith. Bishop Boyce is a good and holy man and much loved by those who know him.&#8221;</p>
<p>After the homily was delivered late last summer, Mr Colgan wrote personally to the cleric seeking a corrective statement.</p>
<p>Dr Boyce responded saying that in his homily he did &#8220;not wish to disparage in any way the sincere efforts of those with no religious beliefs, atheists, humanists etc.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have too much respect for each human person, since I believe all are created in the image of God. At Knock I wished to encourage and confirm the hope of believers, even in the present challenging times, since trust in God was the theme I was given.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>James Robison: The Lord wants Protestants and Catholics to unite as one</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[from Suze Blog: James Robinson sounds like the new spokesperson for Catholicism on his TV broadcast show Life Today. Robinson praised Fox News Contributor Fr. Jonathon Morris, claiming the Lord was upon him and we should listen to him. James and Betty Robinson promotes merger of evangelicals and Roman Catholics. Robinson says everything that comes [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6910&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://sueliz1.wordpress.com/2011/12/08/james-robinson-the-lord-wants-protestants-and-catholics-to-unite-as-one/" target="_blank">from Suze Blog:</a></strong></p>
<p>James Robinson sounds like the new spokesperson for Catholicism on his TV broadcast show Life Today. Robinson praised Fox News Contributor Fr. Jonathon Morris, claiming the Lord was upon him and we should listen to him.</p>
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<div>James and Betty Robinson promotes merger of evangelicals and Roman Catholics.</div>
<p>Robinson says everything that comes out of Fr. Morris’ mouth is consistent with the word of God and the heart of God.</p>
<p>He said: “I wish that most protestant preachers had the same sensitivity, discernment and gift of communication that you have, don’t you agree (audience)?” The audience claps in agreement. Fr. Morris states that Protestants and Catholics need to work together no matter what anyone says.</p>
<p>Take a listen to this clip:</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>You Tube has deleted the video clip</strong></span></p>
<p>Let’s take a look a Fr. Morris. He regularly appears on TV interviews on Fox, CNN and other networks as a Catholic spokesperson. I find it interesting that Fox news needs a Catholic spokesperson in the first place, given that the majority of the Christian population in the USA is Protestant.</p>
<p>Fr. Jonathon claims that the Roman Catholic Church might need to change their view of Creation if scientists finds intelligent alien life forms. He states that if they find these life forms “Maybe we will need to change our understanding of perennial truths” :</p>
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<p>Here is another interesting clip of Fr. Morris explaining Anglicans coming into the Catholic church. Fox news looks tickled pink over it! :</p>
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<p>The bottom line is the Emergent church is emerging. And we need to look at the big picture.</p>
<p>1. The Vatican has called for a new world order and a world bank.</p>
<p>2. The Vatican has told their members they can believe in space aliens and that they are their brothers.</p>
<p>3. The Vatican is ramping up interreligious dialogue with all religions and even atheists.</p>
<p>4. The Vatican, as of yesterday joined the International Migratory Organization.</p>
<p>5. The Vatican has called for a divided Israel and a Palestinian state.</p>
<p>6. The Vatican has called for international climate change law which will bring in world government.</p>
<p>This overall picture of what the Vatican is saying and doing is enough to show, this church is not in alignment with the Word of God, desiring political power and the world government system to come. Those who have ears to hear, listen and take heed.</p>
<p>James Robinson is being swept into the antichrist current leading the world into a world religion where the gospel is compromised, the Bible is mocked and truth is traded for good feelings and unity.</p>
<p>Christians, the time is coming where the line must be drawn in the sand. Which side will you stand on? Or will you stand in the middle of the line in a luke-warm existence? Make the right choice. Choose Him, Jesus of Nazareth. Put on the full armor so that you can stand.</p>
<p><strong>Ephesians 6:10-18</strong></p>
<p><em>Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.</em></p>
<p><em>18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.</em></p>
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		<title>Spiritual Warfare Eschatology</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[from The Discernment Research Group: 2012 will be a year of the release of heavenly authority to many who have turned from religion to the reality of life in God.   The enemy was in the garden with Adam and Eve but was completely powerless until he deceived Eve and then Adam. The devil must [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6904&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2011/12/spiritual-warfare-eschatology.html" target="_blank">from The Discernment Research Group:</a></strong></p>
<div><em>2012 will be a year of the release of heavenly authority to many who have turned from religion to the reality of life in God.</em></div>
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<div><em>The enemy was in the garden with Adam and Eve but was completely powerless until he deceived Eve and then Adam. The devil must deceive human beings to usurp the authority given to mankind to rule in the world. To usurp our authority, he must separate us from the reality of life with God and entice us to follow him. The more he can make his false religion look like the reality of life in God, the more easily he can deceive people into following him and releasing their God-given authority to rule in this world.</em></div>
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<div><em>“ [T] he manifest presence of God will lovingly bond together and prepare His people to endure the hard times immediately ahead and to eventually plant the kingdom of God solidly into the entire world.</em></div>
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<div><em>Beyond the season of devastation, in another season to come, the fullness that is developing under cover will be released into the world. The clearing and the deep plowing of the land of this world will leave little to none of the previous world order and fully prepare the soil of this world to receive the seed of the kingdom planted by the prepared people of God. The Bride City of God will become a reality on earth</em>.[1]</div>
<p><strong>T</strong>his above quotation from the December 1st newsletter released by Ron McGatllin, whose own apostolic network is working alongside C. Peter Wagner’s New Apostolic Reformation, <strong>who takes a classic Dominionist position that Satan’s deception in the Garden of Eden was a matter of keeping the church from ruling the world – thereby thwarting the church&#8217;s divine destiny and purpose. The Dominionist strategy is to re-take the world via any vehicle upon which they can hitch a ride</strong> – community and civic involvement, peace promotion, political and social action, cultural and worldview change, societal engineering, corporate and philanthropic endeavors, partnerships and collaborations with global entities, etc. These methods for achieving Dominion are often called “spiritual warfare.” Additionally, various forms of esoteric, hyper-spiritual altered-state-of-consciousness activities, are practiced within the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR/IHOP) Dominionist camp under the term “spiritual warfare.”</p>
<p><strong>In his most recent newsletter McGatlin, like an increasing number of New Age/NAR/IHOP and evangelical leaders, is giving credence to the significance of the year 2012.</strong> Under his brand of eschatology, the “Bride of Christ” is to “manifest the presence of God” and “eventually plant the kingdom of God” on earth. In this worldview, spiritual warfare it something that is waged against external threats to the church. Lip service may be given to traditional understandings about resisting sin, but the over-riding Dominionist principle of spiritual warfare is based on the heretical premise that enemies of the Lord (however this is defined by various groups) must be conquered and ruled over, including ultimately sin and death. This, of course, negates the necessity of Christ&#8217;s salvation, His shed blood for our sins on the cross. Dominion becomes a method of reversing the effects of the curse. . . . . . .</p>
<p>read the full article <a href="http://herescope.blogspot.com/2011/12/spiritual-warfare-eschatology.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[why does this not surprise me? from the Houston Chronicle: More than 10 million people watch Joel Osteen’s television broadcast each week, and soon viewers will be able to see how the pastor of America’s largest church lives outside of Lakewood. A new reality show will follow the Osteens’ ministry as they serve and inspire [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6875&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why does this not surprise me?</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2011/11/joel-osteen%E2%80%99s-getting-a-reality-show-with-mark-burnett/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+houstonchronicle%2Ftopheadlines+%28chron.com+-+Top+Stories%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader" target="_blank">from the Houston Chronicle:</a></strong></p>
<p>More than 10 million people watch Joel Osteen’s television broadcast each week, and soon viewers will be able to see how the pastor of America’s largest church lives outside of Lakewood.</p>
<p>A new reality show will follow the Osteens’ ministry as they serve and inspire people across the U.S., Lakewood confirmed.</p>
<p><strong>TMZ broke the news</strong>, with details from the show’s producer, Mark Burnett:</p>
<blockquote><p>“<strong>Survivor</strong>” producer <strong>Mark Burnett</strong> is teaming up with <strong>Joel Osteen </strong>for a primetime network show in 2012, TMZ has learned.</p>
<p>Burnett tells TMZ, the premise of the show is that ordinary people will give up several days or longer to go on a mission with Joel Osteen, one of the most popular pastors in the world. All of the missions will be in the confines of US soil to “start fixing things.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Over the years, “just about every studio in Hollywood” has pitched show ideas to the Osteens, but they’ve always turned them down, until now, said Don Iloff, Lakewood spokesman.</p>
<p>The Osteens have been friends with Burnett and his wife Roma Downey, who are Christians and have visited Lakewood in the past, and they trust Burnett’s vision and expertise in the reality TV medium.</p>
<p>The program is in its early planning stages and has not secured a network to air it or even a name yet. The Osteen ministry team hopes it provides uplifting, positive programming that will bring families together to watch.</p>
<p>“When you talk reality TV, on one end there’s <em>Extreme Home Makeover</em>, and on the other end, there’s <em>Jersey Shore</em>. We’re on the <em>Home Makeover</em> end,” Iloff said.</p>
<p>Each episode will center around “people helping people,” following service projects, such as the ones the Osteens have organized in Washington D.C. through a program called Generation Hope.</p>
<p>“We do these projects without the cameras rolling,” said Iloff. “But Jesus said, ‘Let your light shine. Don’t hide it under a bushel.’”</p>
<p>Osteen recently <strong>appeared on Dr. OZ </strong>and network TV superstar <strong>Oprah visited his congregation</strong> earlier this month.</p>
<p>Within the realm of reality TV, viewers are also getting a dose of religion, with TLC programs like <em>All-American Muslim, Sister Wives </em>and <em>19 Kids and Counting</em> all focusing on a faith and family angle.</p>
<p>From Hollywood’s perspective, it’s not necessarily about the content, but the marketability and profitability of such programs, said Richard Flory, an expert in American Christianity at the Center for Religion and Civic Culture at the University of Southern California.</p>
<p>“It’s a different twist on this kind of short-term mission trip evangelicals have done for a long time,” said Flory of the proposed Osteen show. “It turns it into an entertainment model, where you feel good watching it, people feel good doing it and Joel Osteen gets exposure.”</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oprah Winfrey, new age pagan believer an honored guest at Osteen&#8217;s &#8220;church&#8221; &#8220;Houstonian Diego Quintanilla, who was sitting near the duo, tweeted: &#8220;I&#8217;m freaking out!! I can&#8217;t breathe! It smells like money and amazingness!!&#8221; And that quote pretty much typifies the mindless, shallow &#38; Biblically illiterate  that attend Osteen&#8217;s &#8220;church&#8221; from The Houston Chronicle: Oprah Winfrey created [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6826&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p><em>&#8220;Houstonian Diego Quintanilla, who was sitting near the duo, tweeted: &#8220;I&#8217;m freaking out!! I can&#8217;t breathe! It smells like money and amazingness!!&#8221;</em></p>
<p>And that quote pretty much typifies the mindless, shallow &amp; Biblically illiterate  that attend Osteen&#8217;s &#8220;church&#8221;</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Oprah-Tyler-Perry-guests-at-Lakewood-service-2255484.php" target="_blank">from The Houston Chronicle:</a></strong></p>
<p>Oprah Winfrey created a buzz Sunday in Houston with a surprise appearance at the 11 a.m. service at Lakewood Church.</p>
<p>Oprah is in town interviewing Pastor Joel Osteen as a part of her new series Oprah&#8217;s Next Chapter premiering in January on OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network.</p>
<p>The show will feature conversations with real people, newsmakers and celebrities.</p>
<p>Seated in the front row of the crowd of roughly 13,000, Oprah and Tyler Perry were announced as guests at the service. Houstonian Diego Quintanilla, who was sitting near the duo, tweeted: &#8220;I&#8217;m freaking out!! I can&#8217;t breathe! It smells like money and amazingness!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oprah joined Osteen and his wife, Victoria, for lunch at their home and spoke with them about faith, marriage, power and ego, according to Lakewood officials.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Roman Catholic Church is nothing more than a man made corporation, and it functions like one. The Pope being its CEO. It has absolutely no relation at all to Biblical Christianity. The references below to how the Cahtolic Church has handled this epiosode is reminiscent of the &#8220;Whore of Babylon&#8221; in Revelation Chapter 17 [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6809&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Roman Catholic Church is nothing more than a man made corporation, and it functions like one. The Pope being its CEO. It has absolutely no relation at all to Biblical Christianity. The references below to how the Cahtolic Church has handled this epiosode is reminiscent of the &#8220;Whore of Babylon&#8221; in Revelation Chapter 17 &amp; 18</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4129577,00.html" target="_blank">from Ynet News:</a></strong></p>
<p>It has been five years since the Pope gave his controversial lectio about Islam at the German University of Regensburg. On September 12th, 2006, Joseph Ratzinger claimed that the god of the Muslims is both transcendental and unreasonable and he severely condemned jihad and the use of violence in the name of Koran.<strong> It was the only public event in which a Pope told the truth about some aspects of Islamic religion</strong>.</p>
<p>Benedict XVI made himself a central player in the post-9/11 era: His speech against the link between religion and violence, typical of Islam today,<br />
was not a mistake or a false step, as some observers wrote at that time. It was, rather, a vigorous attack against certain aspects of Islamic fanaticism.</p>
<p>The reaction to the Pope’s speech was a familiar spectacle: Threats, riots, and violence. From the religious leaders in Muslim majority countries to the New York Times, all demanded the Pope’s apologies. In the Palestinian areas, churches were attacked and Christians targeted. In the Somali capital, Mogadishu, an Italian nun was executed. In Iraq, Amer Iskander, a Syrian Orthodox priest, was beheaded and his arms mutilated.</p>
<p>In Islamic forums, Ratzinger was depicted like Dracula. He received many death threats: “Slaughter him”, “pig servant of the cross”, “odious evil”,<br />
“Allah curse him”, “vampire who sucks blood” and so on. The highest Islamic representative in Turkey, Ali Bardakoglu, declared that Ratzinger’s speech was “full of enmity and hatred.” The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood pledged “reactions worst of those against the Danish cartoons”.</p>
<p>Iran’s Supreme Ayatollah, Ali Khamenei, accused the Pope of being part of “the conspiracy of the Crusaders.” Under pressure, and aiming to stop any further violence, the Pope apologized.</p>
<p>Benedict XVI recently visited again his native Germany, but this time with a different agenda. <strong>Five years later, the Vatican adopted a pro-Islam </strong><strong>course and has capitulated to fundamentalists.</strong> In a recent book written by German journalist Peter Sewald, Pope Ratzinger expressed “regrets” about the Regensburg lecture. The Vatican’s Secretary of State, Tarcisio Bertone, buried the Pope&#8217;s lesson about Islam as “an archaeological relic.”</p>
<p>“The default positions vis-à-vis militant Islam are now unhappily reminiscent of Vatican diplomacy’s default positions vis-à-vis communism during the last 25 years of the Cold War,” writes George Weigel, a leading US writer about the Vatican. The Vatican’s new agenda seeks “to reach political accommodations with Islamic states and foreswear forceful public condemnation of Islamist and jihadist ideology.”</p>
<p>Appeasement agenda</p>
<p>After Regensburg, the Vatican adopted an appeasement agenda. Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran, who is known for having a pro-Islam position, was appointed by the Pope as the head of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue.</p>
<p>Indeed, Dialogue with Iran’s mullahs is pivotal in the new Vatican agenda. Recently, a delegation of clergy members of Iran’s Islamic Consultative Assembly visited the Vatican, meeting with top Catholic officials.</p>
<p>In June, the Vatican sent Archbishop Edmond Farhat, who is the official representative of Vatican politics, to Tehran to attend an “international<br />
conference on the global campaign against terrorism.” Last autumn, Vatican representatives met with Muslim leaders from around the world in Tehran for “a three-day interreligious dialogue.” In Tehran Cardinal Tauran praised Iran’s “spirit of cordiality” and “the friendly Ahmadinejad.”</p>
<p>Last month, the Vatican published a letter written by Tauran, addressing his “Dear Muslim friends.” In the letter, Tauran asked for Islamic help to form an alliance against atheism.</p>
<p>In 2008, the Vatican promoted “Love of God, Love of Neighbor,” the first three-day forum with Islamic leaders. The Pope agreed to meet one the most dangerous Islamist in the Western world, the grandson of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna, Tariq Ramadan &#8211; the Swiss scholar who denies Israel’s right to life and who has been banned from entering the US because of his alleged association with extremists.</p>
<p>Last May, Bishop Mariano Crociata, secretary general of the Italian Episcopal Conference, announced that the Vatican is in favor of building new mosques in Europe. A month later the European Bishops met with European Muslims in Turin (Cardinal Tauran was also present) to proclaim the need for the “progressive enculturation of Islam in Europe.”</p>
<p>In Rimini, a seaside resort on the Adriatic coast, the Comunione e Liberazione movement, one of the most powerful in the Catholic Church, holds its massive annual “meeting” that usually draws some 700,000 people. The Catholic movement last month hosted the president of Al Azhar, the most important Islamic university in Cairo, and a senior leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, despite the fact that for the first time the US Commission on Religious Freedom recommended that Egypt be placed on a list of the “worst of the worst” countries for persecution of Christians.</p>
<p>Targeting Israel</p>
<p>The State of Israel is easily expendable in the new pro-Islam policy. In January 2009, thousands of Muslims marched in front of Milan’s Duomo to protest against Operation Cast Lead in Gaza. They burned Israeli flags and chanted anti-Jewish slogans. Joaquin Navarro-Valls, John Paul II’s spokesman for 22 years, defended the “freedom of expression” of the Muslims who burned the Star of David.</p>
<p>Months later, Pope Benedict visited Bethlehem, where the Christian population has dropped from a majority to less than 20%. Benedict delivered a message of solidarity to the 1.4 million Palestinians isolated in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip. He said nothing of the suffering of Gaza’s 3,000<br />
Christians since Hamas took over that territory in 2007.</p>
<p>Benedict could have decried the bombings, shootings and other Islamist attacks against Gaza Christian establishments, the brutal murder of the only Bible-store owner of Gaza, or the regular intimidation and persecution of Christians there. Instead, the Pope stood beside Mahmoud Abbas as the Palestinian leader deceptively pointed to a concrete separation barrier in Bethlehem and blamed that barrier, as well as Israeli occupation,” for the plight of Christians.</p>
<p>A few weeks later, the United Nations ran “Durban II” and on the first day of the conference, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the only head of state to attend, made a speech condemning Israel as “totally racist” and referred to the Holocaust as an &#8220;ambiguous and dubious question.” When Ahmadinejad began to speak against the Jews, all European Union delegates left the conference room. The Vatican delegation didn’t say a word.</p>
<p>To understand the new Vatican’s approach toward Islam, one should also read what happened in the historical synod on the Middle East hosted by the Pope last autumn. Nothing was said about Islamist persecution of Christians; indeed, every effort was made to show the Catholic Church’s sympathy to Muslim grievances, especially against “Zionism” – a word evoked as a symbol of evil.</p>
<p>Aside from Iraq, the only country singled out for criticism in the Middle East was Israel. Patriarch Antonios Naguib of the Egyptian Coptic church, who was the “relator,” or secretary, of the synod, expressed “solidarity with the Palestinian people, whose situation today is particularly conducive to the rise of fundamentalism.” The lesson was simple: Islamism is the consequence of Israeli policies. The synod was carefully prepared for a year, and it produced a rash of radical anti-Jewish statements on both political and theological issues.</p>
<p>Ethnic cleansing silenced</p>
<p>The rightful concern of the Vatican for co-religionists has also been silenced. Intimidation, thuggery and violence have succeeded in turning away<br />
criticism not only of Islam, but of violence committed in the name of Islam against Christians.</p>
<p>Over the past several years, Christians have endured bombings, murders, assassinations, torture, imprisonment and expulsions. The very roots of the Christian heritage in the Middle East are being extirpated. When last winter Christians were killed in Egypt, Cardinal Tauran and the Vatican foreign office requested to “avoid anger” and downplayed the Islamist role in the butchering.</p>
<p>In the summer of 2010, Bishop Luigi Padovese, Vatican vicar for Anatolia and president of the Catholic Episcopal conference of Turkey, was slaughtered by Islamic fanatics in Iskenderun on the eve of the Pope’s trip to Cyprus. Vatican diplomacy did its part to convince the Pope to immediately and preemptively rule out the idea that this was a “political or religious” murder.</p>
<p>Elsewhere, the number of Christians in Turkey declined from two million to 85,000; in Syria, from half the population they have been reduced to 4%; in Jordan, from 18% to 2%; nearly two-thirds of the 500,000 Christians in Baghdad have fled or been killed; in Lebanon, Christians have dwindled to a sectarian rump, menaced by surging Shiite and Sunni populations, and in Saudi Arabia Christians have been beaten or tortured by religious police.</p>
<p>It’s an ethnic cleansing of monumental proportions that makes it clear why the Vatican’s submission to political Islam, along with its religious anti-Israel stance, will be remembered as one of the greatest moral failings of the 21st Century</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[James 4:4 You adulterers and adulteresses, know you not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. And a thousand masses in reparation is not going to change that! from Capital FM News: Pope Benedict XVI has invited 300 religious [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6807&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p><em><strong>You adulterers and adulteresses, know you not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.</strong></em></p>
<p>And a thousand masses in reparation is not going to change that!</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2011/10/pope-to-promote-peace-in-talks-with-world-religious-leaders/" target="_blank">from Capital FM News:</a></strong></p>
<p>Pope Benedict XVI has invited 300 religious leaders to a meeting in Assisi in Italy to repudiate “violence in the name of God” amid growing tensions fuelled by fundamentalists across the world.</p>
<p>The day of interreligious council, which will be held on Thursday in St. Francis of Assisi’s birthplace, is intended to be a “journey of reflection, dialogue and prayer for peace and justice in the world,” the Vatican said.</p>
<p><strong>Over 50 Islamic representatives are expected to attend the talks from several countries, including Saudi Arabia and Iran.</strong></p>
<p><strong>They will be joined by Rabbis, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, Sikhs, a Zoroastrian, a Bahai and representatives of Taoism and Confucianism as well as of other traditional religions from Africa and America.</strong></p>
<p><strong>For the first time, four atheists will also attend the meeting, which is traditionally organised so as not to coincide with the Muslim day of prayer on Friday, the Jewish one on Saturday or the Christian one on Sunday.</strong></p>
<p><strong>However, the Imam from the Al-Azhar University in Cairo, a heavyweight authority on Sunnism, will not be coming, having fallen out with the pope after he urged Egypt to protect Christians from attacks by radical Islamists.</strong></p>
<p>The meeting is being criticised by Catholic fundamentalists who are strongly against the idea of dialogue with other religions. French fundamentalist Regis de Cacqueray said 1,000 masses would be needed to be said in reparation.</p>
<p>The event marks the 25th anniversary of the first interreligious meeting in Assisi, organised by John Paul II in 1986 as a “day of prayer” inspired by the United Nation’s proclamation of an International Year of the Peace.</p>
<p>Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, chose not to attend because of concerns shared by traditionalists that it risked mixing religions into a vague common belief.</p>
<p>While guests attending this year’s encounter — the third in Assisi — will in principle follow a “common course”, those who wish to pray will do so separately, according to their beliefs, the Holy See has said.</p>
<p>Cardinal Roger Etchegaray, who helped organise the first Assisi day in 1986, said John Paul II had been careful to avoid mixing beliefs, and Benedict XVI was no different.</p>
<p>“Interreligious dialogue has spread” over the last 25 years, and the pope sees it “as a common, irrevocable heritage of Christian sensibility,” he said.</p>
<p>The pope’s main aim is for participants to agree to “a common commitment to reject the instrumentalism of religion and the use of violence in the name of God,” said a Vatican insider.</p>
<p>Number two of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, Pier Luigi Celata, said the problems that particularly concern religions are immigration, cultural diversity, religious liberty and the defence of the family.</p>
<p>“These issues oblige faithful people from different religions to look for common solutions,” he said.</p>
<p>At the end of the day of talks, the main participants will renew their commitment to peace in the square in front of St. Francis’ Basilica.</p>
<p>A burning torch will be symbolically presented to the delegations in the hope that they will take the message back with them to their communities.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pastor was wrong about Perry and Prerry was wrong about Mitt Romney! The Evangelical Presidential &#8220;Poster Boy&#8221; Candidate shows once again why he is no different than the Universalism touting George W. Bush! When will Christians STOP allowing themselves to be mislead by Politicians? from The Denver Post: The pastor who introduced Texas Gov. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=truedsicernment.com&amp;blog=1204298&amp;post=6767&amp;subd=truediscernment&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pastor was wrong about Perry and Prerry was wrong about Mitt Romney!</p>
<p>The Evangelical Presidential &#8220;Poster Boy&#8221; Candidate shows once again why he is no different than the Universalism touting George W. Bush!</p>
<p>When will Christians STOP allowing themselves to be mislead by Politicians?</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_19066853?source=rss" target="_blank">from The Denver Post:</a></strong></p>
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<p>The pastor who introduced Texas Gov. Rick Perry​ at a conservative gathering Friday said rival presidential candidate Mitt Romney​ is not a Christian and is in a cult because he<br />
is a Mormon.</p>
<p>Robert Jeffress, senior pastor at First Baptist Church in Dallas, endorsed Perry at the Values Voter Summit, introducing him as &#8220;a proven leader, a true conservative, and a committed follower of Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>After his remarks, Jeffress told reporters that Perry&#8217;s religion is different from Romney&#8217;s.</p>
<p>&#8220;Rick Perry&#8217;s a Christian. He&#8217;s an evangelical Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ,&#8221; Jeffress said.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mitt Romney&#8217;s a good moral person, but he&#8217;s not a Christian. Mormonism is not Christianity. It has always been considered a cult by the mainstream of Christianity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Romney is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, whose members are commonly called Mormons.</p>
<p>Perry&#8217;s campaign said the Texas governor disagrees with Jeffress.&#8221;The governor does not believe Mormonism is a cult,&#8221; said spokesman Mark<br />
Miner.</p>
<p>Jeffress had made similar comments about Romney before, during the former Massachusetts governor&#8217;s first presidential run in 2008. <em></em></p>
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