Several years ago I was invited to attend a 40 day purpose driven group and I have seen first hand the confusion that comes from Rick Warren’s assurance to the unsaved that they are in the family of God if they pray a simple prayer asking for purpose in their life. Those who prayed such a prayer did not want to hear about repentance and sin as mature Christians in the group wanted to explain the way of salvation more accurately. Those who believed that entrance into the kingdom came through that prayer steadfastly rejected correction and clung to “Rick Warren said…” while all the while misunderstanding who Jesus is as well as the resurrection and sin and repentance. To them I was the bad guy adding in something that Rick Warren did not make a part of the gospel and their hearts were hardened while they left the 40 days of purpose group to go back into worship of Mary and acceptance of sinful lifestyles that “required” no repentance. It was as if they had an inoculation against true Christianity. I found that very sad.

As far as what Richard Abanes has written about Mormonism, I have not read his book at all, however the statement that was copied from the book on this blog raises a lot of red flags for me. On top of that copies of some of pages on Richard Abanes own web site are problematic. In this day and age when ministries who work hard to evangelize Mormons for Christ are often said to be attacking Mormonism even with many today calling their witnessing efforts “ungodly attacks”, I just want to shake my head in amazement.

We are to love the lost and expose the lies. Paul said in 2 Cor. 10:5 that we are destroying speculations and every lofty things raised up against the knowledge of God…

It seems to me that some advocate dialog instead of the hard work it takes to destroy speculations. I have great admiration for those who spend their lives destroying the lofty things in the Mormon faith that are against the true knowledge of God. I myself am in full-time ministry helping those in the Jehovah’s Witness religion. I work hard to destroy speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God. For 16 years I had the privilege of mentoring and counseling ex-JW’s with a support group for former JWs that we had in our home. We saw literally hundreds of JW’s come through our home in those 16 years and many came to faith in Christ and to an understanding of who Jesus is by the power of his resurrection. For those who do the same thing with Mormons, whose life work is to bring Mormons to faith in Christ, they have my heart-felt respect.

Good job of research.

Informed Researcher said: “He’s quick to accuse you of foul play but there are no rules he has to follow. ”

This is what gives apologetics a bad name. We must be willing to test all things and hold fast to what is good. Those who do not allow us to test them and who attack others just for asking questions when they themselves have no rules to follow, can be very dangerous to the church. Even Paul commended the Bereans for testing what he said by the scriptures.

I thought everyone knew of Rick Warren’s Jungian roots — and just thought the church was, again, behind the times by a decade when they embraced that Purpose Driven drivel.

But to hear mention of Rick Warren and Abanes going soft on Mormonism worries me for one reason: C Peter Wagner and his bunch are spiritual Mormons.

That Latter Rain/Toronto Blessing/Lakeland stuff is all from William Branham’s heresy — just like the Mormons — downloaded from demonic angels. Wagner’s New Apostolic Reformation gang believes in adding “new revelation” to the sealed Scriptures, just like the Mormons.

Even Rick Joyner is “claimed” by a whacky Mormon prophet to be inspired by the same “angel Moroni” who gave Joseph Smith the book of Mormon.

The End Time religion of Anti Christ will be a world wide fake Christianity –

Mormons will be a part of it. I really believe this is a dangerous thing going on, it is the end time delusion. Google around on Joyner, Chuck Pierce, C Peter Wagner Todd Bentley and especially Bill Hamon. Google Manifest Sons of God doctrine… it is scary stuff and obviously Rick Warren and Abanes are getting the watery Christians in on the Delusion.

Oh, in tribute to Abanes, this email is copyrighted. If you want to use it, email me. Anyone but Richard Abanes is free to use it.

By all means the basic foundational tenet of the Bible is the Atonement.

My comment was a counter in regards to Post-modern relativism which is based on Hegelian Synthesis, which says there is not a single right and wrong standard, the ideology of antithessis is that there IS a single standard of right and wrong. And this is a foundational concept of God’s word.

And I agree that Biblical Christianity is connected inseparably to Love, to God’s Love for us that he would give his own son to die for our sins, but again that Love is based on Biblical Love not the post-modern mis-definition of love which says that Love is a sugar daddy grandfatherly type of love, that just gives even to the point of destroying the receiver.

When God chastens us he is expressing love for us, when a caring parent chastens their child they are doing it because they love their child..

God Bless,

John