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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Embattled&#8221; Paula White and Rick Hawkins &#8220;strengthen ties&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: paola</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-8077</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you need to be on Facebook so millions of &#039;Christians&#039; can read what you and others have to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you need to be on Facebook so millions of &#8216;Christians&#8217; can read what you and others have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-7923</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These misguided evangelists just seem to be getting worse and more greedy as time goes on. They are allowed to keep on keeping on, without any remose or conscience. It&#039;s mind-boggling, to say-the-least, to continue to see these people every single week continuing their TV Programs without anything being done to just simply stop their TV Ministries altogether. I beleive that in time, however, all of the scamming mega-TV Ministries will finally collapse. God knows who is genuine and who is not! I sense it pretty strongly lately, that these evangelistic organizations will one day be only and good-by fleeting memory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These misguided evangelists just seem to be getting worse and more greedy as time goes on. They are allowed to keep on keeping on, without any remose or conscience. It&#8217;s mind-boggling, to say-the-least, to continue to see these people every single week continuing their TV Programs without anything being done to just simply stop their TV Ministries altogether. I beleive that in time, however, all of the scamming mega-TV Ministries will finally collapse. God knows who is genuine and who is not! I sense it pretty strongly lately, that these evangelistic organizations will one day be only and good-by fleeting memory.</p>
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		<title>By: percy</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-7421</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what if Christ comes now? we pray that we walk according to the KNOWLEDGE OF HIS WILL col 1:8,9]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what if Christ comes now? we pray that we walk according to the KNOWLEDGE OF HIS WILL col 1:8,9</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-7122</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the ministers who are divorcing their spouses unbiblically need to step down from their ministries and get on their knees before God and repent and get right with God.  Their repentance will cause them to make an about face, as the spirit of God who is a spirit of reconciliation will direct them back to their mates to make things right, anything less is a admission that thaey don&#039;t even know God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the ministers who are divorcing their spouses unbiblically need to step down from their ministries and get on their knees before God and repent and get right with God.  Their repentance will cause them to make an about face, as the spirit of God who is a spirit of reconciliation will direct them back to their mates to make things right, anything less is a admission that thaey don&#8217;t even know God.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-6032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow...refreshing to see that there are still true followers of Christ in the US of A. Just found your blog tonight and love it already. God bless u! Ron, Australia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;refreshing to see that there are still true followers of Christ in the US of A. Just found your blog tonight and love it already. God bless u! Ron, Australia</p>
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		<title>By: sandrar</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-5722</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post... nice! I love your blog.  :) Cheers! Sandra. R.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I was surfing and found your blog post&#8230; nice! I love your blog.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Cheers! Sandra. R.</p>
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		<title>By: Samsquest</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-5521</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samsquest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do the people keep supporting these so called ministries? I&#039;ll tell you why... these millions of followers have &quot;itching ears&quot; they follow and support these false prophets because it makes them feel at ease with their own sin. If these people were true people of God they would no longer support these fakes and then these so called ministries would fade away.

Stand up for what is right people!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do the people keep supporting these so called ministries? I&#8217;ll tell you why&#8230; these millions of followers have &#8220;itching ears&#8221; they follow and support these false prophets because it makes them feel at ease with their own sin. If these people were true people of God they would no longer support these fakes and then these so called ministries would fade away.</p>
<p>Stand up for what is right people!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-5047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the whole world has gone mad.........People just do not care about others anymore and even the family has fallen away. I believe it is because of deceiving people like these ministers that are not from God. If they were from God then they would surely repent. I would rather be a sinner than a man or woman who proclaims to be a christian and does not do what is proper and right in Gods eyes.........These are like some of the seven churches in Revelations..............God says he will spew them out........ The money that these people get from innocent people cannot be taken with them when they die........Wake up and listen to your heart.........God will speak in a still small voice...............]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole world has gone mad&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;People just do not care about others anymore and even the family has fallen away. I believe it is because of deceiving people like these ministers that are not from God. If they were from God then they would surely repent. I would rather be a sinner than a man or woman who proclaims to be a christian and does not do what is proper and right in Gods eyes&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;These are like some of the seven churches in Revelations&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..God says he will spew them out&#8230;&#8230;.. The money that these people get from innocent people cannot be taken with them when they die&#8230;&#8230;..Wake up and listen to your heart&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;God will speak in a still small voice&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Ramirez</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-4828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Ramirez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that they need to get right with God what they did
is just plain wrong&#039; but I&#039;m not going to judge there act&#039;s
God is. When you get up in front of lost soul&#039;s seeking peace from there problem&#039;s. Your really setting up yourself
for so major problem&#039;s. Paula from what I&#039;ve heard and seen what she has said while preaching is dead wrong. But
God said that we as the leader&#039;s will be held to a much higher stand than the rest. God said the sin is for a season it could be 2 or 3 or 4 yrs but in the end it will bring death. It could be very bad for them. But in the end they made there bed that they will have to sleep in . They really need
to stop leading the blind because they are blind themselve&#039;s but they will never tell you that&#039; because they
use and twist the bible to defend themselve&#039;s. They start speaking about forgiveness but do not see the sin in there own live&#039;s. Right away they say we should not judge them. From what I have heard and read about what the bible say&#039;s we should only divorce our huband or wife is they commited adultery.God doesn&#039;t just let us walk away from our marriage because of our pride.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that they need to get right with God what they did<br />
is just plain wrong&#8217; but I&#8217;m not going to judge there act&#8217;s<br />
God is. When you get up in front of lost soul&#8217;s seeking peace from there problem&#8217;s. Your really setting up yourself<br />
for so major problem&#8217;s. Paula from what I&#8217;ve heard and seen what she has said while preaching is dead wrong. But<br />
God said that we as the leader&#8217;s will be held to a much higher stand than the rest. God said the sin is for a season it could be 2 or 3 or 4 yrs but in the end it will bring death. It could be very bad for them. But in the end they made there bed that they will have to sleep in . They really need<br />
to stop leading the blind because they are blind themselve&#8217;s but they will never tell you that&#8217; because they<br />
use and twist the bible to defend themselve&#8217;s. They start speaking about forgiveness but do not see the sin in there own live&#8217;s. Right away they say we should not judge them. From what I have heard and read about what the bible say&#8217;s we should only divorce our huband or wife is they commited adultery.God doesn&#8217;t just let us walk away from our marriage because of our pride.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2008/03/13/embattled-ministers-strengthen-ties/#comment-4416</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sherry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scandals have fallen on so many &quot;Christian singers/evangelists over the past 20 years.  Jim &amp; Tammy Baker, Jimmy Swaggert. the minister from Colorado (whose name escapes me), Oral Roberts &amp; son and daughter in law,Amy Grant, Michael English, and one that really grieved me was Ray Boltz. These are but a few that Paula &amp; Randy White have joined.  Why can&#039;t these people realize that they are worse than the sinner off the street.  They have lied and deceived God&#039;s most vulnerable.  There will be souls lost because of their worldly desires and ambitions.  The very things they condemn week after week are the very things they have embraced.

Do these people deserve to continue on with their fame and fortune, since they have repented?  After all, God is a forgiving God...would he not wash  their sins away?  The answer is Yes....however.....there is a price to pay for redemption.  If they are truly, repentent, they should prove it to God and the Christian community by stepping out of the lime light and into a quieter, more subservient ministry. for the Lord.  By remaining in high positions, they are minimizing their sin and virtually showing us that for them , there are no consequences needed for their actions. 

I am truly saddened by those who have failed to live Godly lives in very big ways.  These are people who claimed to have known God intimately, yet let Satan destroy their integrity.  Some will continue to follow them out of some need for a visible &quot;hero&quot;.  We don&#039;t need human heroes ,  Keep your eye off of men, for they will let you down.  Look only to Christ for he alone will give you the strength to turn from evil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scandals have fallen on so many &#8220;Christian singers/evangelists over the past 20 years.  Jim &amp; Tammy Baker, Jimmy Swaggert. the minister from Colorado (whose name escapes me), Oral Roberts &amp; son and daughter in law,Amy Grant, Michael English, and one that really grieved me was Ray Boltz. These are but a few that Paula &amp; Randy White have joined.  Why can&#8217;t these people realize that they are worse than the sinner off the street.  They have lied and deceived God&#8217;s most vulnerable.  There will be souls lost because of their worldly desires and ambitions.  The very things they condemn week after week are the very things they have embraced.</p>
<p>Do these people deserve to continue on with their fame and fortune, since they have repented?  After all, God is a forgiving God&#8230;would he not wash  their sins away?  The answer is Yes&#8230;.however&#8230;..there is a price to pay for redemption.  If they are truly, repentent, they should prove it to God and the Christian community by stepping out of the lime light and into a quieter, more subservient ministry. for the Lord.  By remaining in high positions, they are minimizing their sin and virtually showing us that for them , there are no consequences needed for their actions. </p>
<p>I am truly saddened by those who have failed to live Godly lives in very big ways.  These are people who claimed to have known God intimately, yet let Satan destroy their integrity.  Some will continue to follow them out of some need for a visible &#8220;hero&#8221;.  We don&#8217;t need human heroes ,  Keep your eye off of men, for they will let you down.  Look only to Christ for he alone will give you the strength to turn from evil.</p>
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