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	<title>Comments on: John Hagee The Heretic: &#8220;Jesus did not come to be the Messiah&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: ayrshirelassi</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For many a year John Haggee has preached on the end times and  made up and added to what was in the Bible. He used to be a regular conservative Assembly of God preacher. Then he got into this groups of 12 cell church stuff. Then he started making stuff up and adding it to the Bible. I have no time for him. We didn&#039;t believe the heresy of the Holy laughter movement and shaking, quaking and barking would come about but, it did. There are many heretics today. List: Jan and Paul Crouch, Creflo Dollar, Fred Price, Jessie Duplantis, Paula White, Benny Hinn, Richard Roberts Mike Murdock, Sid Rolph, Steve Hill, John Kilpatric, Rod Parsley, Andrew Womack, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin Jr &amp; Sr., Charles Capps.

I am not just judging them. The Bible says that you&#039;ll know them by their fruits. John Haggee is part of the end times apostasy-falling away mentioned in the Bible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For many a year John Haggee has preached on the end times and  made up and added to what was in the Bible. He used to be a regular conservative Assembly of God preacher. Then he got into this groups of 12 cell church stuff. Then he started making stuff up and adding it to the Bible. I have no time for him. We didn&#8217;t believe the heresy of the Holy laughter movement and shaking, quaking and barking would come about but, it did. There are many heretics today. List: Jan and Paul Crouch, Creflo Dollar, Fred Price, Jessie Duplantis, Paula White, Benny Hinn, Richard Roberts Mike Murdock, Sid Rolph, Steve Hill, John Kilpatric, Rod Parsley, Andrew Womack, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin Jr &amp; Sr., Charles Capps.</p>
<p>I am not just judging them. The Bible says that you&#8217;ll know them by their fruits. John Haggee is part of the end times apostasy-falling away mentioned in the Bible.</p>
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		<title>By: simple</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if this is true John  Hagee has failed the gospel. I pray God will bring him back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this is true John  Hagee has failed the gospel. I pray God will bring him back.</p>
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		<title>By: Pro-Israel evangelical leader John Hagee &#38; McCain - Volconvo Debate Forums</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Hagee The Heretic: “Jesus did not come to be the Messiah” « True Discernment John Hagee The Heretic: “Jesus did not come to be the Messiah” October 19, 2007 by John  From Sola Dei Gloria: Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22  I saw mention of his book, In Defense of Israel, and the comments by John Hagee around the internet today, and went searching for the clip in which he made some ’supposed’ statements. I say supposed because I had to hear it for myself…  -Jesus did not come to Earth to BE the Messiah.  -Jesus refused by word and deed to be the Messiah.  -The Jews cannot be blamed for not accepting what was never offered.  After finding a clip and hearing the man myself, the only thing I can say is he is now a heretic in my book: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hagee the Heretic &#171; Living Journey</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteveD</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prepare yourselves, for these things must come to pass. For it&#039;s not by force that the man of perdition will rise. He&#039;ll not force himself upon us. As always he will mimick Christ, and he will call upon mankind to choose him, rather than choose Jesus of Nazereth.

The church growth movement has absolutely corrupted the Church. Training Pastors to become greedy shearers of the flock, rather than that of a humble shepherd. 

Who are the true believers? Well, you will know them by their fruit.  Peace and Love is not their passion, but War and Fear.

Do not be dismayed though, because the God of Love is still in control and he laughs at the enemies of His Son Christ Jesus.

May the God of Peace help you through the &quot;Great Falling Away&quot;

Stephen

(but just in case we have a few more decades before He returns, I&#039;m voting for Ron Paul)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prepare yourselves, for these things must come to pass. For it&#8217;s not by force that the man of perdition will rise. He&#8217;ll not force himself upon us. As always he will mimick Christ, and he will call upon mankind to choose him, rather than choose Jesus of Nazereth.</p>
<p>The church growth movement has absolutely corrupted the Church. Training Pastors to become greedy shearers of the flock, rather than that of a humble shepherd. </p>
<p>Who are the true believers? Well, you will know them by their fruit.  Peace and Love is not their passion, but War and Fear.</p>
<p>Do not be dismayed though, because the God of Love is still in control and he laughs at the enemies of His Son Christ Jesus.</p>
<p>May the God of Peace help you through the &#8220;Great Falling Away&#8221;</p>
<p>Stephen</p>
<p>(but just in case we have a few more decades before He returns, I&#8217;m voting for Ron Paul)</p>
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		<title>By: nobody special</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nobody special]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hagee, who are you trying to fool?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hagee, who are you trying to fool?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sadden, because I really liked him. Now I just don&#039;t know about him. He was one of the last &quot;great preachers&quot; out there in my opinion. The last one is, Jack Van Impe, and I hope he doesn&#039;t make comments like these, like many others have. GOD BE WITH US IN THESE TERRIBLE TIME. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sadden, because I really liked him. Now I just don&#8217;t know about him. He was one of the last &#8220;great preachers&#8221; out there in my opinion. The last one is, Jack Van Impe, and I hope he doesn&#8217;t make comments like these, like many others have. GOD BE WITH US IN THESE TERRIBLE TIME. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Verderosa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Verderosa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not surprised by John Hagee&#039;s statement. He was what seemed to me the one good preacher left that still preached the rapture of the saints. But I knew it would not be long before he would become a heretic.

When a man of God accociates with false prophets it will not be long until he become like them. They put much confusion in the body of Christ when they align themselves with the enemy. Hagee goes on TV with Benny Hinn just to sell a book. 

If we all obeyed the word of God and learn to mark and avoid such as the likes of Hagee, only then will the babes in Christ understand. We have let down our brothers and sister when we do not stand up and call these man what they are. We are no different from them if we do not sound the alarm, mark and avoid all who claim to be Christain and compromise God&#039;s word.

It is time to &quot;Come out a be seperate&quot; says the Lord.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not surprised by John Hagee&#8217;s statement. He was what seemed to me the one good preacher left that still preached the rapture of the saints. But I knew it would not be long before he would become a heretic.</p>
<p>When a man of God accociates with false prophets it will not be long until he become like them. They put much confusion in the body of Christ when they align themselves with the enemy. Hagee goes on TV with Benny Hinn just to sell a book. </p>
<p>If we all obeyed the word of God and learn to mark and avoid such as the likes of Hagee, only then will the babes in Christ understand. We have let down our brothers and sister when we do not stand up and call these man what they are. We are no different from them if we do not sound the alarm, mark and avoid all who claim to be Christain and compromise God&#8217;s word.</p>
<p>It is time to &#8220;Come out a be seperate&#8221; says the Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Prof. James Patole</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prof. James Patole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s shoking what we see and hear about Jesus...

But before we make any final comment one has to read the book and then conclude.

It&#039;s possible that even a man like John Hagee can be decieved...as any one of us And it puts us under great responsibility that we stand on Word alone and not one any man&#039;s theology or else no matter how greatly God used them.

High time to protect church, believers and self. Christ ...the Messiah will Help!

Prof. James Patole

jamespatole@rediffmail.com
http://netministries.org/see/charmin.exe/CM07506]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s shoking what we see and hear about Jesus&#8230;</p>
<p>But before we make any final comment one has to read the book and then conclude.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that even a man like John Hagee can be decieved&#8230;as any one of us And it puts us under great responsibility that we stand on Word alone and not one any man&#8217;s theology or else no matter how greatly God used them.</p>
<p>High time to protect church, believers and self. Christ &#8230;the Messiah will Help!</p>
<p>Prof. James Patole</p>
<p><a href="mailto:jamespatole@rediffmail.com">jamespatole@rediffmail.com</a><br />
<a href="http://netministries.org/see/charmin.exe/CM07506" rel="nofollow">http://netministries.org/see/charmin.exe/CM07506</a></p>
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		<title>By: John in Babylon, NY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John in Babylon, NY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a born again believer and a true believer in Yeshua.  I have spent alot of time to study the word and what is taking place in the world and I have to say, I am stunned.  I see a troubling picture as it seems that the shepherds do not even believe the very texts they claim to believe in.  This blasphemy be upon them!  

I joined CUFI when it first formed and I truly love Israel.  However, at one of their rallies there were repeated mentions of the Pope as &quot;His Holiness&quot; and Holy Father&quot; by Robert Stearns of Eagles wings (It made me cringe &quot;Call no man on Earth your father, for their is one father and he is in heaven&quot;), then we were told that we owe the Jews a big apology and that we owe our very faith to the Jews as they brought about the messiah and so on.  

This is deplorable and the mere fact that we Protestants have been lumped together with the demonic Vatican&#039;s atrocities committed against the jews is nothing short of Ironic as the Vatican was killing us too.  Wherever there is a Protestant nation, a Jew dwells safely.  There were some troubles with calvin etc., but it was never adopted en masse&#039;.  Look at Rabbi Herzog!  When the Catholics were hunting him, where did he find sanctuary?  In Ireland, a Protestant nation.

Now with Hagee departing from doctrine as many others like Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, Benny Hinn, and denying Christ, I must say that I made a good choice to depart from this organization when I did.  Even Lahaye departed from doctrine in his book &quot;the Mark&quot; when the mark fell off of the main character.  Then they took it further with that atrocity &quot;Left Behind Eternal forces&quot; video game that depicts Christians blowing people away for not &quot;converting to Christianity&quot;.  

How shameful that a shepherd should do such a thing and may he/they repent of this wickedness lest the stone fall upon them.  

Time truly is short Christians.  Keep your eyes turned upward.  Remarkable things are happening in the skies this year!!!

Your Brother, John]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a born again believer and a true believer in Yeshua.  I have spent alot of time to study the word and what is taking place in the world and I have to say, I am stunned.  I see a troubling picture as it seems that the shepherds do not even believe the very texts they claim to believe in.  This blasphemy be upon them!  </p>
<p>I joined CUFI when it first formed and I truly love Israel.  However, at one of their rallies there were repeated mentions of the Pope as &#8220;His Holiness&#8221; and Holy Father&#8221; by Robert Stearns of Eagles wings (It made me cringe &#8220;Call no man on Earth your father, for their is one father and he is in heaven&#8221;), then we were told that we owe the Jews a big apology and that we owe our very faith to the Jews as they brought about the messiah and so on.  </p>
<p>This is deplorable and the mere fact that we Protestants have been lumped together with the demonic Vatican&#8217;s atrocities committed against the jews is nothing short of Ironic as the Vatican was killing us too.  Wherever there is a Protestant nation, a Jew dwells safely.  There were some troubles with calvin etc., but it was never adopted en masse&#8217;.  Look at Rabbi Herzog!  When the Catholics were hunting him, where did he find sanctuary?  In Ireland, a Protestant nation.</p>
<p>Now with Hagee departing from doctrine as many others like Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, Benny Hinn, and denying Christ, I must say that I made a good choice to depart from this organization when I did.  Even Lahaye departed from doctrine in his book &#8220;the Mark&#8221; when the mark fell off of the main character.  Then they took it further with that atrocity &#8220;Left Behind Eternal forces&#8221; video game that depicts Christians blowing people away for not &#8220;converting to Christianity&#8221;.  </p>
<p>How shameful that a shepherd should do such a thing and may he/they repent of this wickedness lest the stone fall upon them.  </p>
<p>Time truly is short Christians.  Keep your eyes turned upward.  Remarkable things are happening in the skies this year!!!</p>
<p>Your Brother, John</p>
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