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	<title>Comments on: Realtors attend worship service to pray for better market</title>
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		<title>By: daytonsection</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2007/06/28/realtors-attend-worship-service-to-pray-for-better-market/#comment-46</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not in any way being non-compassionate to anyone trying to sell their house (I&#039;m trying to sell mine at this time as well) or anyone suffering financial stress - I&#039;ve had and have my share of financial difficulty - but  what bothers me is what it takes for people to cry out to God, and the greedy &quot;bless me&quot; motives that the above story appears to be promoting along with the positive thinking false teaching - that is the concern...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not in any way being non-compassionate to anyone trying to sell their house (I&#8217;m trying to sell mine at this time as well) or anyone suffering financial stress &#8211; I&#8217;ve had and have my share of financial difficulty &#8211; but  what bothers me is what it takes for people to cry out to God, and the greedy &#8220;bless me&#8221; motives that the above story appears to be promoting along with the positive thinking false teaching &#8211; that is the concern&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2007/06/28/realtors-attend-worship-service-to-pray-for-better-market/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to make a ckarification and I apologize if I may have made the statement in such as way as to wrongly suggest that all realtors were corrupt or complicit in the massive fraud that has driven the Real Estate Market as that would have been both a false and invalid statement to make.

The point I meant to make in my comment above was that there are quite a few Realtors who are complicint and aware of the fraud that is taking place all the thruogh the mortgage process and market but remain silent to protect their income and commission that they receive form prpoerty sales.

There a good many honest Christian realtors however again this article makes a statement that should ring alarm bells in peoples ears. And it is the statement that if enough positive thought is generated that ths will force God to change the real estate maket and more so when that market is rife with fraud to keep it growing.

Anyone who knows the word should know this, and it should let them know something is not right with these people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to make a ckarification and I apologize if I may have made the statement in such as way as to wrongly suggest that all realtors were corrupt or complicit in the massive fraud that has driven the Real Estate Market as that would have been both a false and invalid statement to make.</p>
<p>The point I meant to make in my comment above was that there are quite a few Realtors who are complicint and aware of the fraud that is taking place all the thruogh the mortgage process and market but remain silent to protect their income and commission that they receive form prpoerty sales.</p>
<p>There a good many honest Christian realtors however again this article makes a statement that should ring alarm bells in peoples ears. And it is the statement that if enough positive thought is generated that ths will force God to change the real estate maket and more so when that market is rife with fraud to keep it growing.</p>
<p>Anyone who knows the word should know this, and it should let them know something is not right with these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2007/06/28/realtors-attend-worship-service-to-pray-for-better-market/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sherry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greedy, ignorant and pathetic.  Why don&#039;t they pray for the salvation of lost souls as opposed to praying to God to give them more money in their pockets.  There is a difference in praying to God when you are in a tight spot and struggling but it is a different matter to pray to Him for more money.  Absolutely sickening!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greedy, ignorant and pathetic.  Why don&#8217;t they pray for the salvation of lost souls as opposed to praying to God to give them more money in their pockets.  There is a difference in praying to God when you are in a tight spot and struggling but it is a different matter to pray to Him for more money.  Absolutely sickening!!</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2007/06/28/realtors-attend-worship-service-to-pray-for-better-market/#comment-42</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes there are always people who through unavoidable circumstances fall on hard times. And true there is nothing wrong with them praying for God to help them sell their house. I am a firm believer that God does help people to succeed sometimes even when everyone and everything around them is not.

However this article is not speaking of that. A key phrase in the article was this: &quot;hopes of breathing life and positive thinking into the area’s slumping housing market”
No amount of group positive thinking is going to do anything. This is word faith teching and is anti-biblical.

God is sovereign and though he may answer prayers in how we ask him to answer them sometimes, he is still sovereign and it is always &quot;His will be done&quot; and it may not be in his will that a housing market be revived when it is driven by greed, speculation and the majority of house buyers purchasing properties of a value far in excess of what they can reasonably afford, while they are spending every penny they have on wants as well.

And this is what the Mortgage market has been for the last six years. 20% of all mortgages in the last six years have been sub-prime adjustable rate or 100% plus mortgages. 40% of all mortgages have been adjustable rate mortgages where even people with good credit have been borrowing far beyond their means, and the only way they could do this was because of the lowest interest rates in history and any increase at all in interest rates pushes them into a situation where they can not afford the mortgage payments, this while they have large revolving credit card debts as well. 

What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg and realtors for the most part have know about the abuses in the mortgage market but washed their hands of it all, using the rationale that they just sell the houses it is not their responsibility to ensure everything in the mortgage approval process is moral. Instead they just sat back and kep ton taking the commisions like the rest of the people in the mortgage food chain. the last five years of the Mortgage market have been typified by massive fraud by mortgage orignators, underwriters, and appraisers. This is why I take such a hard tone in this article. All, I say again ALL of the individuals involved in the mortgage process have known about how immoral the process has become.

This article is not about a small percentage of the Mortgage market, it is about the majority of the mortgage market, and it is about how Americans have been living far beyond their means, spending far too much and Realtors who have acted immorally and then thinking they can go to God, forc ehis hand by thinking postively and God will bail them out. The church for its part is not teaching them correctly but jumping on the spend spend spend bandwagon, and mutilating the Word to promote this lifestyle.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes there are always people who through unavoidable circumstances fall on hard times. And true there is nothing wrong with them praying for God to help them sell their house. I am a firm believer that God does help people to succeed sometimes even when everyone and everything around them is not.</p>
<p>However this article is not speaking of that. A key phrase in the article was this: &#8220;hopes of breathing life and positive thinking into the area’s slumping housing market”<br />
No amount of group positive thinking is going to do anything. This is word faith teching and is anti-biblical.</p>
<p>God is sovereign and though he may answer prayers in how we ask him to answer them sometimes, he is still sovereign and it is always &#8220;His will be done&#8221; and it may not be in his will that a housing market be revived when it is driven by greed, speculation and the majority of house buyers purchasing properties of a value far in excess of what they can reasonably afford, while they are spending every penny they have on wants as well.</p>
<p>And this is what the Mortgage market has been for the last six years. 20% of all mortgages in the last six years have been sub-prime adjustable rate or 100% plus mortgages. 40% of all mortgages have been adjustable rate mortgages where even people with good credit have been borrowing far beyond their means, and the only way they could do this was because of the lowest interest rates in history and any increase at all in interest rates pushes them into a situation where they can not afford the mortgage payments, this while they have large revolving credit card debts as well. </p>
<p>What is happening now is the tip of the iceberg and realtors for the most part have know about the abuses in the mortgage market but washed their hands of it all, using the rationale that they just sell the houses it is not their responsibility to ensure everything in the mortgage approval process is moral. Instead they just sat back and kep ton taking the commisions like the rest of the people in the mortgage food chain. the last five years of the Mortgage market have been typified by massive fraud by mortgage orignators, underwriters, and appraisers. This is why I take such a hard tone in this article. All, I say again ALL of the individuals involved in the mortgage process have known about how immoral the process has become.</p>
<p>This article is not about a small percentage of the Mortgage market, it is about the majority of the mortgage market, and it is about how Americans have been living far beyond their means, spending far too much and Realtors who have acted immorally and then thinking they can go to God, forc ehis hand by thinking postively and God will bail them out. The church for its part is not teaching them correctly but jumping on the spend spend spend bandwagon, and mutilating the Word to promote this lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: pacalderon</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2007/06/28/realtors-attend-worship-service-to-pray-for-better-market/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pacalderon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although it is wrong to pray when intentions are greedy, there are families who are suffering financially with wanting to sell their homes but are unable because there are no buyers.  It puts a financial strain that is beyond inconvenient.  My family is going through this at the moment and I see nothing wrong with praying for a revival of the housing market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it is wrong to pray when intentions are greedy, there are families who are suffering financially with wanting to sell their homes but are unable because there are no buyers.  It puts a financial strain that is beyond inconvenient.  My family is going through this at the moment and I see nothing wrong with praying for a revival of the housing market.</p>
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		<title>By: daytonsection</title>
		<link>http://truedsicernment.com/2007/06/28/realtors-attend-worship-service-to-pray-for-better-market/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daytonsection]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What an absolute joke!  When those in this country finally repent and stop seeing God as a &#039;meal ticket&#039; and begin honoring Him for who He is - only then do we have a chance at genuine revival.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an absolute joke!  When those in this country finally repent and stop seeing God as a &#8216;meal ticket&#8217; and begin honoring Him for who He is &#8211; only then do we have a chance at genuine revival.</p>
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